Open Letter to the Devs Regarding Eden's Verse: Reflugence [Spoilers]

[NessaWyvern]

Yet it is lore consistent, our memory isn’t the greatest (i.e. every other primal we summoned) it’s also being interpreted by Ryne and Eden, so changes do happen. Lets take the Hrasevelgr outfit for example.

Who in msq tied to Ryne do we know that merges with a dragon like that. Oh right Ran’jit, so those memories also affected the summoning because of Ryne’s memories, Ryne did have an outfit very similar and very tastefully convering her to Shiva’s so the lore for that is there as well.

I don't have a problem with the first outfit, that is lore friendly. I don't even have a problem with the Hydaelyn outfit, as that is reminicent of the Hydaelyn wall murals.
I just refuse the believe that my character remembers Saint Shiva (not primal shiva) as naked, where we see her in all her statues as fully clothed and in robes. Did Ryne picture her naked? Because that's kinda weird if she did.
Because Ranjiit certainly wasn't naked.



It's a really weird design choice by the devs. And one that I am questioning them on.

[linay]

I just refuse the believe that my character remembers Saint Shiva (not primal shiva) as naked, where we see her in all her statues as fully clothed and in robes. Did Ryne picture her naked? Because that's kinda weird if she did.

If Titan can can have wheels, then I don't see a problem with this lore-wise, especially since it only occurs in the Savage version, which is not the canonical encounter. (Well, it's still part of canon, but not the true encounter and is altered even more.)

[NessaWyvern]

If Titan can can have wheels, then I don't see a problem with this lore-wise, especially since it only occurs in the Savage version, which is not the canonical encounter. (Well, it's still part of canon, but not the true encounter and is altered even more.)

I always thought that was more like merging Titan with the Kobold technology we saw before and after we met Titan. Like minecarts with wheels, grates, and the like.

[linay]

I always thought that was more like merging Titan with the Kobold technology we saw before and after we met Titan. Like minecarts with wheels, grates, and the like.

And if you can see that, then seeing Shiva be naked and have the dragon be her covering isn't a stretch either. It's just an interpretation that whatever produced the Savage version gave.

[TheGrimace]

I don't have a problem with the first outfit, that is lore friendly. I don't even have a problem with the Hydaelyn outfit, as that is reminicent of the Hydaelyn wall murals.
I just refuse the believe that my character remembers Saint Shiva (not primal shiva) as naked, where we see her in all her statues as fully clothed and in robes. Did Ryne picture her naked? Because that's kinda weird if she did.
Because Ranjiit certainly wasn't naked.


It's a really weird design choice by the devs. And one that I am questioning them on.

I picture literally everyone else naked at all times of the day and at all times of the week. It's a power move.

I have lots of problems.

[Valorak]

I don't have a problem with the first outfit, that is lore friendly. I don't even have a problem with the Hydaelyn outfit, as that is reminicent of the Hydaelyn wall murals.
I just refuse the believe that my character remembers Saint Shiva (not primal shiva) as naked, where we see her in all her statues as fully clothed and in robes. Did Ryne picture her naked? Because that's kinda weird if she did.
Because Ranjiit certainly wasn't naked.

It's a really weird design choice by the devs. And one that I am questioning them on.

I already posted this in another thread, but I might as well post it here as well.

Gods, Goddesses, and beings of a divine nature are often depicted with little to no clothing in many forms of art and literature. Since the primal has a halo in her Oracle of Light/Hydaelyn form and we're in a place called Eden, which is filled with angelic and (at times) vaguely Classical imagery, I'm willing to bet that they were aiming for that particular aesthetic.

Their use of Amaurot and Hythlodaeus shows that the writers are obviously familiar with some western European literature and art, so I'm even more willing to believe that Classical imagery was what they were trying to evoke with her Savage attire.

From a modesty/sexualization standpoint, I saw the imagery as no different from these:

There's nothing sexual about either of those to me, and I thought it was the same for E8. I don't remember any gratuitous shots and nothing lewd was going on. She has the same flowing kind of sheet-like covering that many sculptures and paintings use, and she shows arguably less skin than the sculptures pictured above. She's just all anime'd up with Hraesvelger as her wings/covering and is exploding us with light.

I do realize that there are probably a few people that grabbed a box of tissues and ran off to the bathroom as soon as they finished E8, but I'm not gonna blame the writers/artists for that. They haven't done anything pervy with her character so far, so I'm not going to assume that was what they were trying to do with her in E8.

I'm also not trying to say that you or anyone else is wrong for disliking the art. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, and it's a good thing to be protective of children. They obviously deserve to grow up in an environment safe from predatory creeps. However, I also believe that we shouldn't let culture stagnate, or society grind to a halt because we're paralyzed in fear over a few bad actors.