Eden 8 ( Spoilers) Ummm....Square?

[Alleo]

I don't think teens showing some skin is a problem by itself. Look at the swimsuit example I showed earlier in this thread as there is even less that is left to the imagination in that one. But full on nudity without covering or any other more extreme modification goes beyond just showing some skin.

I guess it comes down to different tastes. I find a swimsuit much less worse than someones only clothes being a dragon which was also Shivas lover. But I guess I just find it funny that they went that way after all the talk about never getting younger characters (and some people simply wanted to play teenager not for lewding but because they just like playing as them).

Yeah, I did it for the first time this evening. I thought she wouldh ave been near butt naked the way people described it on here. Whatever excuse you can make when you want playable kids I suppose.

Did you do savage? Because there she has a much more revealing outfit.

I also find it funny how some say we have a problem when the OPs post was kinda sarcastic anyways and that they probably also find it quite funny that they have done that with Ryne.

[3c-33]

The internet doesnt just exist in a vacuum, you can't argue about it's just pixels who cares when it constantly affects people which also applies to fiction in general. Just think about how for a long time your stereotypical story revolves around a straight white male with no deviations from this, not only does this subconsciously give the idea that the world revolves around them, but it affects people who want to see themselves represented in media. I could find a million stories about straight white makes and I honestly don't give a damn about any of it because it's less likely to be relevant to me and what interests me. So anyway now when someone wants someone else all the straight white males will cry about sjws and pandering and whatever because suddenly something isn't made for them for once, entitlement to everything that was caused by... Fiction. And this entitlement bleeds into all other aspects of their life.

Anyway there's nothing inherently wrong or sexual about showing skin and Imo it depends on what it is you're wearing but the outfit here is pretty sexualized, given that it's only made worse in the savage version and like. My problem with it is this could have been so easily avoided by doing like a hundred different things, but instead someone specifically said "yes I want a character who looks underage to have their head pasted onto a nude body" and that's what doesn't sit right with me.

You could honestly argue all day about whether or not it's this or that and I can somewhat see both sides here (but don't get me wrong I'm pretty uncomfortable with it and I think trying to defend depictions like this is ridiculous, I just at least think there's some merit in suggesting that people are making it out to be a bigger deal than it is)

Do i think thiss is making a mountain out of an anthill, maybe, but I can still see the issue with it especially again since someone actually had to make the conscious decision to let this pass.. If it were me i would never let it slide just because of the controversy that would surround it alone, i don't care to argue about whos right and whether or not its morally okay or not, it's better to avoid controversies like this period by not putting it into popular media like this. Just like I don't care if the sexualized character who looks like they're 10 is "technically thousands of years old" or whatever stupid excuse you could make up for something like that. You could also just not do weird creepy shit that people can argue over altogether. This feels like one of those things.

[Xuled]

As I’ve seen stated in this thread already, Ryne is just doing the typical magic girl anime trope. Some people wouldn’t be able to handle Sailor Moon in 2020 apparently..

[EpicOverlord85]

The internet doesnt just exist in a vacuum, you can't argue about it's just pixels who cares when it constantly affects people which also applies to fiction in general. Just think about how for a long time your stereotypical story revolves around a straight white male with no deviations from this, not only does this subconsciously give the idea that the world revolves around them, but it affects people who want to see themselves represented in media. I could find a million stories about straight white makes and I honestly don't give a damn about any of it because it's less likely to be relevant to me and what interests me. So anyway now when someone wants someone else all the straight white males will cry about sjws and pandering and whatever because suddenly something isn't made for them for once, entitlement to everything that was caused by... Fiction. And this entitlement bleeds into all other aspects of their life.

Anyway there's nothing inherently wrong or sexual about showing skin and Imo it depends on what it is you're wearing but the outfit here is pretty sexualized, given that it's only made worse in the savage version and like. My problem with it is this could have been so easily avoided by doing like a hundred different things, but instead someone specifically said "yes I want a character who looks underage to have their head pasted onto a nude body" and that's what doesn't sit right with me.

You could honestly argue all day about whether or not it's this or that and I can somewhat see both sides here (but don't get me wrong I'm pretty uncomfortable with it and I think trying to defend depictions like this is ridiculous, I just at least think there's some merit in suggesting that people are making it out to be a bigger deal than it is)

Do i think thiss is making a mountain out of an anthill, maybe, but I can still see the issue with it especially again since someone actually had to make the conscious decision to let this pass.. If it were me i would never let it slide just because of the controversy that would surround it alone, i don't care to argue about whos right and whether or not its morally okay or not, it's better to avoid controversies like this period by not putting it into popular media like this. Just like I don't care if the sexualized character who looks like they're 10 is "technically thousands of years old" or whatever stupid excuse you could make up for something like that. You could also just not do weird creepy shit that people can argue over altogether. This feels like one of those things.

Idk man I still think this is a ridiculous thing to get riled up about.

[3c-33]

Idk man I still think this is a ridiculous thing to get riled up about.

Kinda but I still find it gross, especially since these topics tend to bring out the worst kinds of people willing to defend it like Annihilism just mentioned

The only reason this is "debatable" at all is because of how they presented it as a "well technically..." Scenario. I think that should say enough about it already.

[EpicOverlord85]

Kinda but I still find it gross, especially since these topics tend to bring out the worst kinds of people willing to defend it like Annihilism just mentioned

The only reason this is "debatable" at all is because of how they presented it as a "well technically..." Scenario. I think that should say enough about it already.

Ahh yes the age old “if you’re fine with this you must be a pedophile in real life” argument, haven’t seen that dragged out in a while. It always has to be an extreme with people no matter what the situation is I suppose.

[RyuSaarva]

so how do I get her naked then, do I have to ask everyone to look at the redress stun everytime so she decides to take her clothes off which gives a permanent stun to everyone and then she slowly "kills" everyone one by one?

[3c-33]

Ahh yes the age old “if you’re fine with this you must be a pedophile in real life” argument, haven’t seen that dragged out in a while. It always has to be an extreme with people no matter what the situation is I suppose.

Right, because -



There's totally nothing wrong with this whatsoever,yep, let's let the creepy internet cretins manifest themselves everywhere and grow comfortable sexualizing underage characters with this disgusting "l*li culture" garbage that's already way too common as is. Say whatever you want about how what happened isn't a big deal, you're still going to get people that are total creeps over it and these kind of threads are very good at being able to single them out. I don't care what someone does or doesn't do in real life, this isn't any better than that.

[EpicOverlord85]

Right, because -



There's totally nothing wrong with this whatsoever,yep, let's let the creepy internet cretins manifest themselves everywhere and grow comfortable sexualizing underage characters with this disgusting "l*li culture" garbage that's already way too common as is. Say whatever you want about how what happened isn't a big deal, you're still going to get people that are total creeps over it and these kind of threads are very good at being able to single them out.

Considering Ryne isn’t real, she doesn’t actually have an age, and no one is harmed by anyone being “into” her yeah it doesn’t bother me. It’s almost like I can tell the difference between reality and fiction.

[Allegor]

I think we all should just... agree to disagree that it's a cultural clash grey zone. Everyone knows nudity in on itself is taboo in the west, specially US, add a minor and it's bound to be a recipe for disaster. Did she need to be dressed like that? no, it was an artistic/symbolic choice. Does her being dressed like that mean they approve or even encourage pedophilia? also no, not everything is about sex people - we make it about sex because somewhere out there, someone is lusting over it and we're aware of it.