Can we PLEASE get Hempen Camise and Pantalette designs RACIALLY UNLOCKED now?

[XenoSamurai]

It would be nice, but I don't think they see it as a priority. I'm not even sure they plan on doing this even though they said they would "look into it" a while back--which of course doesn't come anywhere near to meaning "yes, we'll do it" even though I'm sure plenty of people in this community will have taken it like that. I can dream though and maybe one day they'll deliver because there are some outfits I've wanted to throw together that require the hempen model of another race.



No, because no one is entitled to have everyone else agree with them. This isn't an echo chamber. Does it really make any difference if the dissent is the 2nd reply or the 102nd? Should they wait a few pages before disagreeing next time?

Refute them or ignore them instead of suggesting they shouldn't voice their opinion on the subject just because it doesn't fall in line with the OP. Of course they should probably have a more robust argument than "No", but that's neither here nor there.

I didn't mean that people can't disagree, I just felt like just saying "no" is rude and doesn't add anything to the argument like you said.

I think you took a meme response far too seriously.

Not sure what you mean?

[SturmChurro]

It’s so hypocritical to lock them yet see Viera and Hrothgar wear Hempen set designs that don’t belong to their racial heritage...I genuinely don’t understand what’s going on...i would really like to wear the midlander Hempen set...but Viera get to?

Are you really gonna bring up viera? They don't even have their own Hempen set, because they didn't bother to make one for them.

[Sebazy]

I have it in my head that Yoshida touched on this at one of the live letters? I'd wonder if the issue is merely a case of dev time. It's quite a lot of outfits to adjust, I'm certainly for it though <3

[Packetdancer]

While we're at it can we please stop genderlocking things?

Give. Me. PANTS.

I mean, I also wouldn't mind wearing the male Valentione's vest, because it looks nice and dapper and would be much more my character's style. And there's a few other outfits where I'd really love the male jacket or tunic instead of a frilly dress.

But mostly?

Pants.

(Please.)

[Gemina]

Can we request anything anymore without someone immediately shooting it down? I would personally love this to happen, it would open up a lot of nice glamours, though I still feel it's unfair that Viera and Hrothgar didn't get their own unique sets.

No. This isn't an immediate shutdown. It's a continuous one. This request has come up countless times. I even remember it being one of the first threads I read when I first started posting here a long time ago.

To be somewhat fair, even though I strongly support glamour restrictions, I feel the hempen sets should not fall under them. They are just undergarments and not tailored to any specific job or role, just gender. I do feel bad Hrothgar didn't get a set, but Viera I am actually jealous because the Midlander hempen set looks better on them.

The reason I say no is because the amount of time it would take the devs to make this happen for the sake of glamour. I would much rather them continue to release head gear for Viera and Hrothgar along with giving them their own hempen sets.

[ErryK]

This was actually brought up at a Fanfest but mistranslated, so good luck trying to get it be a conversation topic again at a Fanfest. I was kind of hoping it'd be a thing because the male midlander hempen chest is really good, so are the male highlander hempen bottoms.

As for points being made against it because 'its just glamour', glamour is a selling point and AFAIK, this benefits everyone, not just a select few.

[MikkoAkure]

Considering viera and hrothgar got old sets because the devs were too rushed to make new ones, the answer is that it’s probably not going to happen. I think diversity is more important than glam options and I think we need more racially diverse gear. Plus I don’t believe there’s enough demand to warrant the effort to have devs going in and creating from scratch new underwear models since men have 3 different basic models (hyur, lala, roe) and women have 2 (hyur, lala).

Outfits that look different in each gender are also probably not going away either. I don’t see a point for practical armor to look different between the sexes and things like the dragon belly window are kinda reprehensible, but sets that are more fashionable or are cloth I have no problem being different. Men and women’s fashion has been different for thousands of years. That said, I don’t get why some glamour sets are widely different. Spring pants for example should be pants for both and I think there should have been a shorts option for both genders as well.

Outfits that look different on each gender but each gender can wear the other’s outfits is probably not something that’s going to happen for every existing gear set or be something rolled out for the future. That would be asking the devs to double their workload, just for the aesthetic. They’re coming out at a trickle based on demand for that reason.

[3c-33]

Outfits that look different on each gender but each gender can wear the other’s outfits is probably not something that’s going to happen for every existing gear set or be something rolled out for the future. That would be asking the devs to double their workload, just for the aesthetic. They’re coming out at a trickle based on demand for that reason.

So again like if this even actually is a thing that's why I'd rather they just make one outfit that fits both simply because you can't exactly miss what's not there. Like every time they make an outfit that's identical on both genders, there's never an outcry for one to be different from the other every single time right? the problem only arises when there's two different genderlocked ones so I really don't see what the issue is with that solution, ive yet to see people complain they didn't get a gender specific one... Not to mention I'm pretty sure making two unique sets is more work than making one unisex one anyway.. That, and if they continue making genderlocked ones, they're only adding to the amount they would have to change later anyway if they ever decide to bother going all the way through on their statements regarding this. I'd still think it's better to start now rather than later

Outfits that look different in each gender are also probably not going away either. I don’t see a point for practical armor to look different between the sexes and things like the dragon belly window are kinda reprehensible, but sets that are more fashionable or are cloth I have no problem being different. Men and women’s fashion has been different for thousands of years. That said, I don’t get why some glamour sets are widely different. Spring pants for example should be pants for both and I think there should have been a shorts option for both genders as well.

It's totally fine for there to be different expressions, I just don't like being forced into one option when there already exists an alternative that I prefer. I like cute feminine stuff as much as the next person but I really need a balance between that and things that aren't hyper-feminine. I realize there's already plenty of unisex stuff but adding more stuff to the list of things I can't wear doesn't really help things. So if this really isn't feasible at all, then well, see above.

[MikkoAkure]

So again like if this even actually is a thing that's why I'd rather they just make one outfit that fits both simply because you can't exactly miss what's not there. Like every time they make an outfit that's identical on both genders, there's never an outcry for one to be different from the other every single time right? the problem only arises when there's two different genderlocked ones so I really don't see what the issue is with that solution, ive yet to see people complain they didn't get a gender specific one... Not to mention I'm pretty sure making two unique sets is more work than making one unisex one anyway.. That, and if they continue making genderlocked ones, they're only adding to the amount they would have to change later anyway if they ever decide to bother going all the way through on their statements regarding this. I'd still think it's better to start now rather than later

They already need to make a different set for women since the 2 sexes have different player models. Asking for everyone to look the same would be boring and bad design. I’m not a fan of tank gear where women get shorts for some inexplicable reason, but you can take the fashionable gender-specific WHM/AST/SCH designs from my cold, dead hands.

[3c-33]

They already need to make a different set for women since the 2 sexes have different player models. Asking for everyone to look the same would be boring and bad design. I’m not a fan of tank gear where women get shorts for some inexplicable reason, but you can take the fashionable gender-specific WHM/AST/SCH designs from my cold, dead hands.

Yes, but making it different on one means you're making a new design or editing the original design which sounds like more work to me compared to just sticking with one design for both.

I'm not sure why you think not locking clothing is going to make everyone look the same when not only does everyone tend to go along with the current new flavor of the month/week/day glamour anyway, but lack of actual character customization makes most characters all look like clones of each other, viera especially. (I mean come on the valentines event had hundreds of people crowded into same instance in every server wearing the exact same thing, it doesn't get worse than that.) There's already thousands of other players with the exact same face you have, with the exact same clothing restrictions as you. Giving you the option to choose between wearing a suit or a dress and so on instead of just the dress is going to help separate you ever so slightly from every other viera/female around. Now instead of 100% of females wearing the female variant, you have a 50/50 on females wearing either option, and now apply this to everything.

Personally I feel only being given the one option on any certain thing just makes me feel like any other generic girl #4687, I see people who wear the same stuff I do all the time, there's only everything to gain from this. I would gladly wear the male variant of any gear you like just to give us both the benefit of not wearing the same thing