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    Quote Originally Posted by Odstarva View Post
    This is the big issue I'm having. Is there any actual trick to triggering the currents? Is it pure RNG?
    You trigger the currents by catching Spectral fish. I don't know how many are actually needed to get a Spectral Current to pop, but I did get an extra 10% bonus for being the person to trigger one of them. Pretty much everyone needs to actually be fishing to contribute towards the goal to get all three Spectral Currents. And you absolutely need the three currents to get enough points to qualify for the mount. It looks like this is having a side effect of some people joining a voyage and if a Spectral Current doesn't pop in the first four minutes of the voyage they'll quit the voyage and launch another voyage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Commander_Justitia View Post
    Why double hook in spectral? It seems better to use GP on patience II with powerful hookset etc. as you get more HQ fish out of that. Do two-four fishes give way more points than one HQ?

    I've seen somebody get over 11k with just two rainbows, it is possible, so don't give up after first area.

    With a sitting animation it seems to take longer to fish, during a spectral current? But maybe Im wrong

    I think party finder groups may be a better option to coordinate. You can make 3 teams and say enter the duty after 5min when everybody solo already entered. You can assign 2 people for one bait so you get the most out of every zone, which is important for the 10% bonuses at the end. Spectral fishes seem to be fishable with more than one bait anyway, they overlap.
    I was using Patience I to conserve GP and using Precision for ! and Powerful for !! & !!!

    I would recommend not sitting as the animation is longer losing out on cast time. Same with tossing fish back. That is a couple extra casts you could be making.

    The XP is absolutely insane too. Went from 70 to 80 in 5 voyages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commander_Justitia View Post
    Why double hook in spectral? It seems better to use GP on patience II with powerful hookset etc. as you get more HQ fish out of that. Do two-four fishes give way more points than one HQ?
    With patience II it not only costs a lot but you will only get 1 fish per catch, while double hook can catch you up to four big fishes in HQ if you are lucky. But its probably too early to tell which is better? I in general dont use patience II, I mostly use I since its much cheaper.

    Quote Originally Posted by ElazulHP View Post
    You trigger the currents by catching Spectral fish. I don't know how many are actually needed to get a Spectral Current to pop, but I did get an extra 10% bonus for being the person to trigger one of them. Pretty much everyone needs to actually be fishing to contribute towards the goal to get all three Spectral Currents. And you absolutely need the three currents to get enough points to qualify for the mount. It looks like this is having a side effect of some people joining a voyage and if a Spectral Current doesn't pop in the first four minutes of the voyage they'll quit the voyage and launch another voyage.
    I wonder if catching the fish itself is RNG then? And people have pointed out on reddit that you dont need all three currents to get the mount. I was around 9.1k with just two and if I had been more lucky with my HQ I would have made it. So I guess having three just decreases the luck you need but at the same time in all of my voyages I never had people reach that.
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    I caught the Spectral Megalodon and triggered the spectral current in the first area, and caught the Spectral Bass in one of the others but that didn't trigger it for some reason. They were both HQ, but maybe multiple people need to catch them or something?
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    Man, this is starting to sound like content I'd be better off avoiding for a week or two while all the hype dies down. Can just imagine getting grouped up with people that'll get upset that I'm "not fishing hard enough!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    Man, this is starting to sound like content I'd be better off avoiding for a week or two while all the hype dies down. Can just imagine getting grouped up with people that'll get upset that I'm "not fishing hard enough!"
    This. But im also afraid if i wait too long i might not get enough people doing voyages for the top prizes to be in reach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    I caught the Spectral Megalodon and triggered the spectral current in the first area, and caught the Spectral Bass in one of the others but that didn't trigger it for some reason. They were both HQ, but maybe multiple people need to catch them or something?
    It seems to be the case because I have also caught quite a few spectral fish and nothing happened. I also wonder if you need certain bait to catch these or if its just purely random?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    Man, this is starting to sound like content I'd be better off avoiding for a week or two while all the hype dies down. Can just imagine getting grouped up with people that'll get upset that I'm "not fishing hard enough!"
    The problem with waiting is that a lot of the bonus multipliers require a group effort to catch enough fish to trigger them. Also, the bigger the group, the more likely someone will trigger the spectral current. If you wait until interest dies down, you might not get full parties, and that will make it tougher to get enough points for the mount.

    I wouldn't worry about getting yelled at. In the dozen or so runs I made, no one said anything to anybody beyond a few greetings at the very beginning. Most people are too focused on maximizing their own score to worry about what everyone else is doing.

    One final note, in the run where I finally hit the 10,000 mark and got the mount, there was a guy leveling in the single digits. Even low levels can catch fish and contribute to the group effort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    With patience II it not only costs a lot but you will only get 1 fish per catch, while double hook can catch you up to four big fishes in HQ if you are lucky. But its probably too early to tell which is better? I in general dont use patience II, I mostly use I since its much cheaper.
    I tried double hook a few times now and I never caught it. 400GP is still expensive, idk if its really worth.

    And yeah low level players can contribute too, but it's like going in Baldesion Arsenal with randoms, it is better if people have an idea what they want to achieve and go for. Better that they already have all baits and maybe even bufffood. And gear for enough GP, that increases just the chances for the whole group. Ofc rng is still looking at you in the end. But I will just make premades at this point, seems more efficient if you really wanna go for the mount or title.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commander_Justitia View Post
    I tried double hook a few times now and I never caught it. 400GP is still expensive, idk if its really worth.

    And yeah low level players can contribute too, but it's like going in Baldesion Arsenal with randoms, it is better if people have an idea what they want to achieve and go for. Better that they already have all baits and maybe even bufffood. And gear for enough GP, that increases just the chances for the whole group. Ofc rng is still looking at you in the end. But I will just make premades at this point, seems more efficient if you really wanna go for the mount or title.
    Hm what did you not catch? I am only using double hook in spectral phases for !! and !!! and it always gave huge amount of points. Some guy on reddit even says that he does not use patience at all and still won over 10k because he simply used three double hooks while spectrals were going on. I guess there might be different strategies to reach the same amount but those that have reached beyond 16k (at least those that posted on reddit) did it with double hook.

    It just utterly frustrates me how random this conten is. Had one run where we got not a single spectral even though I had caught a couple of spectral.
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    got mine today with 55xx points, after 80% bonuses ended with 10168.

    I stopped using Patience altogether. I used Chum if my GP was at max just so it was sitting at cap, aimed for conserving GP so that I could Double Hook 3 times during Spectral Currents with a Hi-Cordial.
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