It's time (Option to Hide other players Glamour)

[SamRF]

For that I recommend holding down the W or S key, rotating your camera, using your eyes to look away, or a combination of any of the 3.

Look. Away. Or are you too lazy to do that.

You can't look away during instances. Some cosmetics are pretty distracting as well as disturbing. I'm a human, I can't filter out something in my sight or choose to not look at it when it's right in front of me. As most people I don't have full control over my concentration and object of focus.

[Corfish]

You can't look away during instances. Some cosmetics are pretty distracting as well as disturbing. I'm a human, I can't filter out something in my sight or choose to not look at it when it's right in front of me. As most people I don't have full control over my concentration and object of focus.

I mean, unless they're front and center with me in a cutscene, I almost never notice what people wear in a dungeon because I'm focused on doing the dungeon myself. Maybe you should worry less about someone else's glamour and more about the content you're doing (also, what glamour in this game even comes close to disturbing?)

[Kohl]

This idea is not good.
Style/fashion/glamour is as much a form of expression as speech. It is the first thing people communicate to each other without saying a word. This request is a request to mute others expression, and if given the option to mute things because hearing them makes me uncomfortable, I can tell you as a fact that I would not. If you are going to see "just look away" as an attack on your sensibilities, then it also needs to be considered how muting people's expression is definitely an attack on them and their speech.

I wouldn't advocate for a separate server that was glamour free and had all the gender restrictions you could dream of +10, and I don't advocate for this.

On another note, glamours used to disappear in party instances (dungeons/raids), SE changed that so they are always active; so I highly doubt this will ever get traction.

[Theodric]

I mean, unless they're front and center with me in a cutscene, I almost never notice what people wear in a dungeon because I'm focused on doing the dungeon myself. Maybe you should worry less about someone else's glamour and more about the content you're doing (also, what glamour in this game even comes close to disturbing?)

Just because you don't notice such things it doesn't mean that other people operate in the same way. You realise that some people are naturally more perceptive than others, right? Or that some people are colourblind? A lot of players see the game in a very different way to you.

You can opt to see the game the way you wish to. Other people can do as much themselves. Give players the tools to make their own choices and everybody is happy - except those who seemingly think they need to be the centre of attention on a stranger's screen for no discernible reason.

[Arillyn]

I've seen some glamours that I admit I have said to myself "what were they thinking?!" and I've seen some that I have also said to myself "wow that is pretty amazing!" I'm sure I've had some glamours that people like and some that people hate. I understand why some people may not like glamours "mah immersion" - but in a game that has flying elephants and dogs... I think that ship has sailed.

I make my glamours for myself. If SE were to implement something where people wouldn't see mine then oh well. Again, the glamours I make are for me. But I really don't think SE should spend development time on this. And as Kohl said above, SE had glamours disabled in instances a long time ago and they stopped doing that. I doubt they'll take their resources to implement hiding glamours on the client side.

[3c-33]

Except when the person who feels uncomfortable and is involved is the viewer and as has been outlined in many responses has no choice but to view the unwanted (and totally changeable by the wearer btw) glamour. Right?

It's not their problem that someone is so distressed by their own appearance because nothing in this game that can be glammed can be seen as offensive. If you turn on the TV and see someone that is so ugly that it physically distresses you, are you going to change the channel or call up the producers and ask them to give you the option to censor them? It is also not my problem that someone may have such a problem with me that they want to make me invisible entirely, I'm going to continue existing where I am and they don't have any right to change that, they can look away or go somewhere else.

You are not an artist creating original works when you glamour your character.
"I don't want to see these glamours" does not equal "I want to steal and derive works from your artwork".

In the case of modifying someone's artwork without their permission, even if the artist doesn't see it, doesn't make it okay. Obviously these two scenarios aren't exactly the same but they are comparable.

Number 1. not wanting to see someones glamour isn't murder or comparable in any way.
2. you are also asking people to just deal with something that concerns them so getting the argument turned back on you is fair play.
3. people are considering how they feel, and honestly you're never going to make everyone happy (this whole forum is full of threads caused by people unhappy about changes that affected them).

My use of the phrase "people die when they are killed" was used to point out the cause and effect of not allowing someone to do something obviously takes away a choice from them and is the entire point.

I deal with plenty of things I don't like by looking away. I don't need some rose tinted glasses to get rid of what I don't like that's right in front of me. By going to a Convention I am accepting that there is going to be people there that I don't like and that spending my time being upset over people who are going to be there whether i like it or not is a pointless waste of my time and energy.

It's ridiculous to you that people are bothered by incongruous or flamboyant or revealing outfits, I can empathize because: imagine that same feeling when someone says that just the thought of their video game avatar possibly (not guaranteed, just maybe if they have the option on) not appearing on someone else's screen "correctly" distresses them to no end. It sounds incredibly trivial.

yes

[Corfish]

Just because you don't notice such things it doesn't mean that other people operate in the same way. You realise that some people are naturally more perceptive than others, right? Or that some people are colourblind? A lot of players see the game in a very different way to you.

You can opt to see the game the way you wish to. Other people can do as much themselves. Give players the tools to make their own choices and everybody is happy - except those who seemingly think they need to be the centre of attention on a stranger's screen for no discernible reason.

I get that some people really hone in on those sort of things, but I literally go through whenever I start a dungeon and Examine everyone's characters, and even after seeing them I still don't really pay attention to what they're wearing once things start. I honestly don't think it's that hard for people to mind their own business regardless of how perceptive they are. The man in the briefs honestly probably isn't trying to get a rise out of people. If I were to take a wild guess he's probably honestly just a gay man happy to have a male character as sexualized as female characters usually are. This game has a particularly large LGBT and female population compared to other MMOs, partly BECAUSE it allows people like us to express ourselves in ways many of us can't IRL. We're living this fantasy that straight men have been allowed to experience for years. BTW I'm not trying to imply you're a straight man, you might not be, but I do know a lot of the pushback comes from straight men not being catered to explicitly. I can't tell you how many times I've seen some guy make a big deal over a male character's glamour being too girly, or revealing, or whatever. Regardless of what people say, we're not stupid enough to believe that the larger issue here is immersion. There is 100% a reason that these threads always seem to explode around men getting access to traditionally feminine clothing. Some people genuinely are concerned about their immersion, but this never really comes up when the immersion breaking fits gender norms.

On another note, glamours used to disappear in party instances (dungeons/raids), SE changed that so they are always active; so I highly doubt this will ever get traction.

I think you're misremembering, it was PvP where they used to be disabled.

[Cithaerias_pyropina]

Nah, I don't think this is worth the dev team's time.

This also falls under the classic case of "give someone an inch and they'll take a mile". What's going to stop someone from asking "Can we disable mounts so that they're all default chocobos?", "Can we disable exterior housing walls so that they're all the default looks?" and "Can we disable certain races from showing up?" if this is implemented, which it very likely won't because of that very reason.

Sensible game devs, and businesses in general, almost always prefer not to open a can of worms and this would do that very thing.

But if this IS implemented, can I glamour the level 50 WHM job armor on Red Mage? And could I also glamour the Edengate Mail of Fending on Scholar? You'd be able to disable my glamour, so it wouldn't be immersion breaking since only I'd see it. Oh wait...did I just prove my point?

[spf1200]

Nah, I don't think this is worth the dev team's time. If someone has a glam you don't like just deal with it.

It's a better use than umbrellas

[Dogempire]

You could make that sort of argument for pretty much any quality of life feature.

'We don't need the inventory size to be increased, just manage your items better.'

'We don't need an easy mode for MSQ solo duties. Just learn how to play.'

'We don't need fishing icons changed, just look at the rod movement.'

Luckily the development team are pretty good at accounting for a global audience and I have faith that a suggestion along these lines is not an impossible task with that in mind. You may not intend to use it or see the benefit of it and that's fine - but for other players it'd be a major perk for various reasons.

It's a stretch to call this a quality of life feature, quality of life implies that it makes something better, more streamlined, or generally more accessible. You could make an argument that it's a QOL feature if it helped reduce load times, but all this change does is make you not have to look at things that you don't like.

Going by that logic might as well ask for them to add a feature that changes all females to males considering I don't like looking at them, or changing Morbols into Chocobos because Morbols are ugly.