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  1. #531
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    Glamour spell is a context that exist within FFXIV lore. Even Alisaie made a joke about it during Stormblood.

    FFXIV tells your story, and you are the main character of your game, so, if I see a Roe using a dress/bikini/whatever, I just see another adventure using glamour in the way he wants, my character sees a funny guy/girl or someone with poor fashion taste, she laughs(or not) and moves on. It just don't interfere with my ingame life and don't break my immersion.
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  2. #532
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    Disable or replace it on only your own computer, not everyones.
    I know it been said many of the pages i just thought i did not need to mention that but i guess i was wrong about that

    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    For people who still would like to make their own characters appear in a customized way and people who like the variety and "creativeness" of others glamours. . Again, this isn't disabling it for EVERYONE, just on the computer of people who want to enable the option.
    u did not need to spell it out again



    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    Solutions to this have been proposed: normalized AF gear instead or full on full character replacements (gear, weapon, face) .
    I think u mean head gear if not that then what u are asking is altering your character completely and again I know where it would be enabled


    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    Why does the idea that you're going to have a placeholder generic representation on someone elses screen who doesn't like customized glamours or certain glamours bother you? You prefer knowing that you're inspiring distaste or hate rather than indifference?
    so asking if i glamour only for a negative affect? no i glamour to inspire others to glamour or something like that

    people should be tolerant of others in game and in real life

    and the people that would be using that feature is not because distaste or hate????? it works both ways.. this just is my thought of the matter would i stop playing if it was implemented properly not
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    The seas continue to rise while the lesser moon continues to fall, and ilm by ilm, the world becomes ever more unlike itself, without the illumination of knowledge, we but vainly flail as specters in the dark.

  3. #533
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fayt1203 View Post
    I know it been said many of the pages i just thought i did not need to mention that but i guess i was wrong about that



    u did not need to spell it out again
    I'm not trying to be mean, just thorough.




    Quote Originally Posted by Fayt1203 View Post
    I think u mean head gear if not that then what u are asking is altering your character completely and again I know where it would be enabled
    There was one response that said they might be OK with it if the entire character was replaced since it wouldn't be a misrepresentation of their character, I.E. their character in weird clothes. So I mean Face and yes, full character replacement. Just as consideration for that particular concern.



    Quote Originally Posted by Fayt1203 View Post
    so asking if i glamour only for a negative affect? no i glamour to inspire others to glamour or something like that
    I'm asking why should it matter if someone who doesn't wish to see your outfit cannot see it? At that point all you are doing is annoying them because you cannot make a compromise.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fayt1203 View Post
    people should be tolerant of others in game and in real life


    and the people that would be using that feature is not because distaste or hate????? it works both ways.. this just is my thought of the matter would i stop playing if it was implemented properly not
    The people using that feature would be using it so as to minimize feelings of distaste or hate. And noted that you would leave the entire game over just the thought of someone possibly not seeing your glamour.
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  4. #534
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    I'm not trying to be mean, just thorough.





    There was one response that said they might be OK with it if the entire character was replaced since it wouldn't be a misrepresentation of their character, I.E. their character in weird clothes. So I mean Face and yes, full character replacement. Just as consideration for that particular concern.




    I'm asking why should it matter if someone who doesn't wish to see your outfit cannot see it? At that point all you are doing is annoying them because you cannot make a compromise.



    The people using that feature would be using it so as to minimize feelings of distaste or hate. And noted that you would leave the entire game over just the thought of someone possibly not seeing your glamour.
    I know that you are not trying to be mean Sometimes i am reading too much in between the lines i was just writing how i felt on the matter even if some it doesn't make much sense
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    Last edited by Fayt1203; 02-18-2020 at 12:35 AM.
    The seas continue to rise while the lesser moon continues to fall, and ilm by ilm, the world becomes ever more unlike itself, without the illumination of knowledge, we but vainly flail as specters in the dark.

  5. #535
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamRF View Post
    but just want to have a way to avoid having to look at certain glamours.
    For that I recommend holding down the W or S key, rotating your camera, using your eyes to look away, or a combination of any of the 3.
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  6. #536
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogempire View Post
    For that I recommend holding down the W or S key, rotating your camera, using your eyes to look away, or a combination of any of the 3.
    You could make that sort of argument for pretty much any quality of life feature.

    'We don't need the inventory size to be increased, just manage your items better.'

    'We don't need an easy mode for MSQ solo duties. Just learn how to play.'

    'We don't need fishing icons changed, just look at the rod movement.'


    Luckily the development team are pretty good at accounting for a global audience and I have faith that a suggestion along these lines is not an impossible task with that in mind. You may not intend to use it or see the benefit of it and that's fine - but for other players it'd be a major perk for various reasons.
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  7. #537
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    While I don't care what other people see this would be distressing for people who NEED to have other people seeing their glamour and would be a clear indication this was happening and totally defeat the purpose of this being client side only.
    If this, which it has almost no chance it will be, is implemented make it so whoever has the option on appears in default glamour on my screen.

    If that person doesn't want to see my glamour, I don't want to see theirs then. And I shouldn't have to disable everyone's glamours to achieve that.

    Quote Originally Posted by SamRF View Post
    An option to give everyone a default armor (for each role) that all look the same would be fine too imo. Wouldn't use it too much, but just want to have a way to avoid having to look at certain glamours.
    Look. Away. Or are you too lazy to do that.
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  8. #538
    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    There's no need for personal attacks. It's also against the rules to compel a play-style - so please stop dismissing player concerns by telling them to just look away. It's not that simple and doesn't account for players who show up in cutscenes.
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  9. #539
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cithaerias_pyropina View Post
    If this, which it has almost no chance it will be, is implemented make it so whoever has the option on appears in default glamour on my screen.

    If that person doesn't want to see my glamour, I don't want to see theirs then. And I shouldn't have to disable everyone's glamours to achieve that.
    I'm not entirely sure how much plainer I can say this..

    The point is that only the initiating players experience is changed, nobody else NEEDS to know about it and it's even been mentioned by several people in this very thread (opposers of this option btw) that it distresses them just to think about it, imagine how much worse it'd be for them if they had an actual representation of how many people weren't seeing their glamours?
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

  10. #540
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    Nah, I don't think this is worth the dev team's time. If someone has a glam you don't like just deal with it.
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