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    Nedkel's Avatar
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    Chloe Lehideux
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    Zodiark
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    Samurai Lv 74
    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    You missed the point and this is a really hollow argument you have there. I mean i can understand you, from a rhetoric viewpoint you want to beat me in that discussion but maybe try it within the context.
    People often get wrong what the difference between tolerance and being active against something is. It's like irl, everyone has (up to a certain point) the freedom of expression. Means a guy can wear a pink shirt and even if you think it's a female color and disgusting you are obliged to tolerate it. Tolerating it doesn't mean you have to like it, doesn't mean you have to keep your mouth shut about it. It means you don't grab the next bat and beat that poor guy up for wearing that shirt. That is what modern society is about, it's not your business what other people wear and if you don't like it look in the other direction.
    You are always obliged to tolerate (if it isn't harmful towards you), that's on what our western laws are based on. You can't beat the crap out of other people just you don't like their style. You can always talk about it tho. So it's more a morale thing we talk about, opression should never be an answer. Ofc you can choose to not tolerate stuff like that here and be active against it, there were many people in history who had the same mindset and i think you don't want to be one of them over a bunch of virtual clothes.

    And again, i think you are smart enough to understand my point and next time you answer you give a proper answer, hopefully. ^^
    Someone being against it would be complaining on certain dresses to make them being unavailable to everyone in the game.
    IRL you dont have physical option to hide someone so we have to get used to and tolerate it, because people wearing something we dont like wont just disappear, but even irl you cant wear everything you wont go to work in thongs and nothing else on you, do you? In game you could have the option, its possible to implement and i really dont understand why are you against someone just turning others glam on their own client, they already could do it with mods then why do you care?
    Nothing will take your freedom away from you, you wont even tell if someone is using it, why are you comparing it to beating someone with stick is beyond me, its non intrusive thing making game more friendly to everyone, it will significantly reduce prejudice and drama among players. And nope we cant call someone else in game and criticize their outfit, because it could get us banned.
    We cant interact with others in the same way we could do irl, thats another argument why this toggle button should be implemented asap.

    Quote Originally Posted by 3c-33 View Post
    Until you actually walk around polling thousands of individual people why they're dressed that way you can't make this claim
    Maybe not most, but big part of them sure.
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    Last edited by Nedkel; 02-17-2020 at 08:38 PM.