It's time (Option to Hide other players Glamour)

[Cithaerias_pyropina]

Or the devs could spend an inordinate amount of time and resources creating the system, just like the umbrellas.

Or they could not and just call it a day.

[Crushnight]

I don't want to see this feature for 2 reasons;

-it gives those that want to remove races non jokingly an opening for a way to do that

- this whole thing is getting way too close to Boris Johnson levels of urgh with regards to how people want to dictate what people should dress like. It will never be like it since rl vs video game but I drew parallels that made me uncomfortable.

[Nedkel]

It's strange, the debate about it is so heated and still it should be common sense for us living in western societies that we have to tolerate others stuff as long as they don't harm us physically.
I think it's a really dangerous thing that people are willing to blacklist and censor themself because they can't tolerate and that's actually something you can see in every "faction" nowdays.
A MMO is like our irl society, a bit at least, you show stuff off you have or you like and other players can see it. That's why we don't have housing like in wildstar but rather open wards where everyone can see your house. And dang sometimes i wish i could blacklist all moogle/chocobo/carbuncle houses but i rather choose to tolerate other players taste. I mean it's also my choice how many anti dragon canons i put in my garden in case of Au Ra invasions!
So again, even tho blacklisting sounds like a good way to deal with this topic...it's not. In that matter i don't even care a lot about me, if you blacklist me or my glam so be it. I care more about the people who are willing to censor themself just because they can't stand a certain opinion or way of expression that isn't harmful to them.

You cant wear everything irl even in the so called "western societies" lol
But you are right, i should get used to seeing half naked characters in the game all the time, its basically how people wear in the west, a bikinis in the middle of the winter
Whats up with the west trying to force their "tolerance" upon everyone around them? Someone disliking something is personal and subjective thing, if someone could have an option to opt out from looking at things that upsets or disgust them, then why not? It could potentially save metric ton of drama. By the matter of fact most of the players wearing provocative outfits do that to upset everyone around them, doing it on purpose to provoke someone who may not like their outfit, the examples of such behavior is present in this thread, is this fine? To provoke people on purpose?

[Theodric]

I wish people would stop bringing politics into the discussion. A client side option to hide glamour is in no way equal to infringing upon human rights.

[Greven]

Glamour is part of the character customisation, I'm sorry you can't take it away.

This is an MMORPG, you play with other people and interact with them on all matters, glamour included.

There is too much that could ruin your subjective sense of immersion other than glamours.

I initially disliked the idea to have a race that was more than 1/3 beast, Hrothgar specifically, and I wish there were a bit less almost naked people, but then I realised hat immersion is an excuse. Furthermore it's not like on FF history there have been no frog people, battle moogles, gendefluid characters or half naked warriors either.

Maybe try to be a little bit more open minded, it will help you irl too.

[3c-33]

By the matter of fact most of the players wearing provocative outfits do that to upset everyone around them

Until you actually walk around polling thousands of individual people why they're dressed that way you can't make this claim

[Ranaku]

You cant wear everything irl even in the so called "western societies" lol
But you are right, i should get used to seeing half naked characters in the game all the time, its basically how people wear in the west, a bikinis in the middle of the winter
Whats up with the west trying to force their "tolerance" upon everyone around them? Someone disliking something is personal and subjective thing, if someone could have an option to opt out from looking at things that upsets or disgust them, then why not? It could potentially save metric ton of drama. By the matter of fact most of the players wearing provocative outfits does that to upset everyone else, doing it on purpose to provoke someone who may not like what they are wearing the examples of such behavior is present in this thread, is this fine?

You missed the point and this is a really hollow argument you have there. I mean i can understand you, from a rhetoric viewpoint you want to beat me in that discussion but maybe try it within the context.

People often get wrong what the difference between tolerance and being active against something is. It's like irl, everyone has (up to a certain point) the freedom of expression. Means a guy can wear a pink shirt and even if you think it's a female color and disgusting you are obliged to tolerate it. Tolerating it doesn't mean you have to like it, doesn't mean you have to keep your mouth shut about it. It means you don't grab the next bat and beat that poor guy up for wearing that shirt. That is what modern society is about, it's not your business what other people wear and if you don't like it look in the other direction.

You are always obliged to tolerate (if it isn't harmful towards you), that's on what our western laws are based on. You can't beat the crap out of other people just you don't like their style. You can always talk about it tho. So it's more a morale thing we talk about, opression should never be an answer. Ofc you can choose to not tolerate stuff like that here and be active against it, there were many people in history who had the same mindset and i think you don't want to be one of them over a bunch of virtual clothes.

And again, i think you are smart enough to understand my point and next time you answer you give a proper answer, hopefully. ^^

[testname]

I got hurt by some people who didn't like how and what I am dressing up in Eorzea

I told it few times on reddit and in here - but general response is "immposibru" I am making up things

To disbelievers, here is Topic, this people will tell you how you have to walk, dress, drink, eat, what music to listen and God knows what more

Do what You want, but stay away from my life please

[Theodric]

Nobody within this thread is telling anybody how to dress. They simply do not wish to see certain things on their screen - which is fair enough. There's all sorts of different reasons as to why that may be the case. The only people trying to dictate things are those who are falsely trying to claim that is an attack upon their very identity. It'd be a different matter if people were petitioning for the complete removal of specific glamour options altogether. They're not, though - they're simply petitioning for a compromise. Which in turn brings about another option for people to enjoy the game in the manner in which they wish to.

[KDSilver]

Next step should probably be to just delete the character entirely from our sight because eh, don't like to see x race.

No seriously, are people that bored ?
I mean what the...