Method hosting Eden's Verse World First event

[MitsukiKimura]

Not my cup of tea.
I don't really like when adventure and cooperative games are more seen as racing and competitive games, but I understand it can talk to some people.

This right here. I don't care for it either, I'm not a fan when it turns a MMO into something of speed kill, world first etc. It's how one of my favorite classes got destroyed because of the mentality it brought to the devs. I"ll pass.

[Yeol]

This right here. I don't care for it either, I'm not a fan when it turns a MMO into something of speed kill, world first etc. It's how one of my favorite classes got destroyed because of the mentality it brought to the devs. I"ll pass.

I don’t understand, what mentality made the devs destroy your favorite class?

[Kleeya]

Even if more visibility is a good thing, i always find hazardous to take Twitch numbers as a clue of how well a game is doing when a lot of viewers are here to look at their entertainer streamer of choice, and not the game itself. I once did see one of them switch temporarily to a random game because their main one was not working anymore, that doesn't mean that the random game did become as successful as Fortnite even though the viewers count was here. How many people will watch the Method stream only because of the Method name, but not begin to playing FF14 anyway ?

There must also be on Twitch a lot of people who take a look at games they dont have just because they are curious about them, but not to the point of buying and playing them. That is my case, i have looked way more at some games streams i don't own than FF14 ones. If i want to see some FF14, i just launch the game myself.

Not that i am this interested at a "who will be the first to be able to sell new savage runs in pf in exchange for big bucks" race anyway XD

Wait a minute, you seriously claim Savage is for the "hardcore"? I raid casually, with casuals, all the time and we all got E4S clear weeks ago. And I am talking 2-4hrs per week playtime casuals, thats a LOT less than most "casuals" spend in their houses alone.

"casual" is a word whose meaning can change tremendously depending on who is using it, like softcore, midcore and harcore statics. For me it is not only someone who don't play a lot, but also someone who don't have a lot of skill and can't clear harder content. So i wouldn't call you a casual if you can clear E4S.

[MitsukiKimura]

I don’t understand, what mentality made the devs destroy your favorite class?

Having all AST's cards turned into minor balance cards. The community loved AST and how it had utility. This whole Balance or bust is the kind of mentality it brought and I don't want to see more of it here.

[Yeol]

Having all AST's cards turned into minor balance cards. The community loved AST and how it had utility. This whole Balance or bust is the kind of mentality it brought and I don't want to see more of it here.

RIP AST Cards. I do miss the Crit buff.

[WhyAmIHere]

Wait a minute, you seriously claim Savage is for the "hardcore"? I raid casually, with casuals, all the time and we all got E4S clear weeks ago. And I am talking 2-4hrs per week playtime casuals, thats a LOT less than most "casuals" spend in their houses alone.

By that standard, I assume you consider EX trials hardcore content too?

Keep in mind. Even casual raiding in savage is still something some, more vocal and toxic members of the community, consider to be "beyond their scope of concern and care." Even raiding savage at all puts you above the majority of the playerbase that doesn't raid.

[Sasarayu]

Hopefully Method will do well. Since every FFXIV encounter is a super scripted Queen's Court or Hive Mind and there's hardly any variation from this formula I don't think Method are directly schocked by the high entry floor of FFXIV which has contributed to the legend of this game being incredibly difficult and theoretically advanced. I also don't think tiered stat weights and set in stone "Playmobil/building with DUPLO" rotations would be a problem to people used to simming synergetic stat weights 100 times a day and optimizing dynamic active/passive procc rotations.

The lack of addons isn't a problem in a game with so little RnG and so few variables as FFXIV. Everything in this game can be memorized and planned beforehand. It would be cool if Method take this seriously and not just see it as something for the lulz. Up until this point FFXIV has only had pseudo elitism so if someone from outside bring some fresh blood and real elitism in it would be a wake up call to the sacred birthright aristocracy of the FFXIV raid scene.

Hopefully Method taking an interest in FFXIV will also reach Tokyo and influence future raid design and what direction PvE could take in FFXIV. The game has a lot of potential but ShB has imo been a step back compared to SB even in terms of PvE design.

I also think it's a good opportunity to end the unofficial trench war between FFXIV and WoW with at least one side making a positive gesture and showing interest in the other game. I don't think you would see any FFXIV "elite" doing a world first event for WoW on any content but at least some WoW players are showing some will to break down the barriers and taboos and I commend them for it. Just like they are an inspiration to the WoW community I hope they will also be to FFXIV.

[Nezerius]

Hopefully Method will do well.

I'm sure they'll do well enough organising the event. Perhaps the five teams that they've picked to follow might even convince them to give it a try themselves.

[Sasarayu]

I'm sure they'll do well enough organising the event. Perhaps the five teams that they've picked to follow might even convince them to give it a try themselves.

Don't forget that if you replace two red apples with one green apple it has 10 higher Potency© aligned with trick attack and snapshotted on the 3rd GCD. *The Arrival of the Queen of Sheba from Händel's Solomon starts playing*

[Penthea]

"casual" is a word whose meaning can change tremendously depending on who is using it, like softcore, midcore and harcore statics. For me it is not only someone who don't play a lot, but also someone who don't have a lot of skill and can't clear harder content. So i wouldn't call you a casual if you can clear E4S.

For me whether someone is casual, hardcore or anything in between is more about attitude than time spent in the game. Time spent in the game is obviously also a contributing factor as to why you might call a person one thing or another, but attitude towards the content they're doing is, in my opinion, the real thing that separates these vary degrees of approach to the game. It can also change depending on the content. Someone might be a hardcore omnicrafter, but may only be a casual raider at most. Very often one label isn't enough to accurately categorise players. People don't always fit into neat little boxes.