Method hosting Eden's Verse World First event

[Vahlnir]

Because publicity for a game is bad somehow?

Publicity isn't a bad thing. Never mentioned that in my post. I just see what the esport scene has done to WoW and I don't want to see it become a major factor here. It isn't solely responsible for the game's downfall but I do feel that is it at least a small factor.

[Baalfrog]

Publicity isn't a bad thing. Never mentioned that in my post.

Thats what it essentially does though. Its an event hosted by a company sure, they are just doing their business. It's basically the same as watching the whole Ultimate prog of team x, but instead with dedicated hosts and a strong brand providing their platform for it, increasing visibility. Overall I don't see anything bad in it.

[SamSmoot]

Method has switched to FFXIV? Or do they just have a branch here?

[Baalfrog]

Method has switched to FFXIV? Or do they just have a branch here?

Just a branch. I'll say again though, they are not themselves raiding, instead partnering with 14s native teams and casters and just providing their platform for the event.

[Saccharin]

Because publicity for a game is bad somehow? Also Method itself is not running, just partnering with some teams from 14.

The world first mentality brings with it an elitist toxicity any game can do with out. FF14 has always suffered from this but this stuff can only add to it.

The 'hardcore' are the most visible but the vast majority - the people who pay the bills - are the 'casual' players who dont raid savage or ultimate, or whatever 'difficulty' they bring out next.

Wildstar launched with the hardcore mindset and was dealt a critical blow at launch that it (sadly) never recovered from. 'Casuals' are the bread and butter. Put them off and your game dies.

[Niyuka]

The world first mentality brings with it an elitist toxicity any game can do with out. FF14 has always suffered from this but this stuff can only add to it.

The 'hardcore' are the most visible but the vast majority - the people who pay the bills - are the 'casual' players who dont raid savage or ultimate, or whatever 'difficulty' they bring out next.

Wildstar launched with the hardcore mindset and was dealt a critical blow at launch that it (sadly) never recovered from. 'Casuals' are the bread and butter. Put them off and your game dies.

Wait a minute, you seriously claim Savage is for the "hardcore"? I raid casually, with casuals, all the time and we all got E4S clear weeks ago. And I am talking 2-4hrs per week playtime casuals, thats a LOT less than most "casuals" spend in their houses alone.

By that standard, I assume you consider EX trials hardcore content too?

[Cylestea]

Wow im amazed. I'm looking forward for this

[Awful]

The world first mentality brings with it an elitist toxicity any game can do with out. FF14 has always suffered from this but this stuff can only add to it.

The 'hardcore' are the most visible but the vast majority - the people who pay the bills - are the 'casual' players who dont raid savage or ultimate, or whatever 'difficulty' they bring out next.

Wildstar launched with the hardcore mindset and was dealt a critical blow at launch that it (sadly) never recovered from. 'Casuals' are the bread and butter. Put them off and your game dies.

You're wrong on this one it's an event to bolster the game not hinder it there's no elitist toxicity whatsoever just people that love a certain aspect of the game which is world first races which attracts a lot of people Mythic Nya'lotha went for almost 9 days 14s race will be much shorter but it's still giving it a preview for those who wanna see what endgame raiding is like.

And no one is above each other whether you're hardcore or casual, there's people who have 2-3 accounts with max retainers or people who have 20 houses, people who are collectors, people who PvP, please don't generalize people into said categories when everyone plays this game for many different reasons, myself included.

Wildstar also failed because no one wanted to do 40 man raids because getting 40 people to do raids is a pain in the tail and the populace realized that with the many bugs and boring encounters wasn't because of "elitists" it tried to cater to people who loved mass raids of classic WoW and older games.

[Barraind]

itll be good, and a way for the streamers on those teams to get some exposure.

If you arent a part of the "I want to watch these people stream" club, its actually hard to find where to watch them stream without sifting through now streaming results on twitch and hoping theyre going.

More publicity isnt going to be a bad thing, but itll be a significantly bigger EU bump than NA.


I do kinda wish we had these types of things back EQ and the early days of WoW (we used IRC timestamps to see who cleared things first, ha), but those were sigificantly different times.

[linay]

As I mentioned in another thread, I just hope the added publicity won't be on the negative side of FFXIV's community. Or if it does, hopefully it will have a positive result.