SMN Why don't we hear about egi glamours anymore?

[Silverquick]

I pretty much agree with all you say. I don't want Egi's to be removed and think it is possible for them to have synergy with the Demi's.

- My problem with SMN right now is the synergy of everything else. I enjoy commanding my Egi/Demi but feel they are in conflict with the rest of SMN's toolkit. I dislike how Egi Assault shares the GCD...it should have it's own CD especially since it's an ability executed by the Egi which surely would have it's own CD's anyways?

- I also dislike feeling rushed whenever I have a Demi summoned. Like I have to just tunnel vision in order to squeeze the most damage out of the Demi (especially with Bahamut, as only certain abilities trigger Wyrmwave...)

Oh its even wierder than that once you pass 70th.

The order the Trances come in is completely wonky now. Ok so fair enough you start with just a standard Deathflare which generally if on its own is used as a part of an AoE rotation. THEN you get Bahamut Demi, which is actually MOSTLY a single target type of rotation you use for Boss Mobs due to the Ruin 3/Wyrmwave Combo. Then you get Phoenix Trance which is primarily an AoE rotation.

That would be ok except... its COMPLETELY out of order for the way things appear in a dungeon or really any instance outside of 8 mans.

Normally it goes like this... Trash mobs (AoE Targets) ... More Trash Mobs (AoE Targets) ... Boss Mob (Single Target).
But your Trance Rotations goes like this... Deathflare (AoE multiple target)... Bahamut Demi and Wyrm Wave (Single Target).... Phoenix Rotation (AoE multiple target)

Its completely out of order and wonky and you can't change it.

EDIT: Now I don't want to get too negative here because there ARE things that have been improved upon with regards to just general Egis. The Air Pet's constant AoE normal attacks and Egi Assaults make it the BEST AoE pet, and even better than it was prior in any AoE rotation.
And the Earth Pet, despite losing the taunt now can actually be used in Raid situations and Dungeons where you have to take a lot of unavoidable damage due to the Raid wide damage. Plus you can pop this pet, shield yourself with the Glittering Topaz and then use the full Demi-Bahamut rotation unmolested regardless of what gets thrown at you short of insta-kill attacks. Plus the damage though not as good as Ifrit-Egi is still about halfway between the Fire Pet and the Air Pet. So still usable as a halfway measure.

[OvernightSiren]

Any more feedback from anyone?

[AnimaAnimus]

I think smn is going to get an overhaul, much like mcn to make it more of a pet-centric or large but brief summon class rather than a dot mage. We can already see it happening with the 5.0 changes, so egi glamours would be a waste of dev time.

[OvernightSiren]

I think smn is going to get an overhaul, much like mcn to make it more of a pet-centric or large but brief summon class rather than a dot mage. We can already see it happening with the 5.0 changes, so egi glamours would be a waste of dev time.

They could add glamours for the bigger summons then ;P I'd rather summon Leviathan than Phoenix

[Haxaan]

They could add glamours for the bigger summons then ;P I'd rather summon Leviathan than Phoenix

Demi-Primal glamours would be amazing! Especially if we get a third trance in 6.0 because then we could have the warring triad as demi's. Not sure that would be something they would do, but would be really nice to be able to just glamour over Bahamut and Phoenix with (fill in Primal name here).

[OvernightSiren]

Demi-Primal glamours would be amazing! Especially if we get a third trance in 6.0 because then we could have the warring triad as demi's. Not sure that would be something they would do, but would be really nice to be able to just glamour over Bahamut and Phoenix with (fill in Primal name here).

If they add it it'll probably be a cash shop exclusive...most of any good looking gear we get these days is cash shop exclusive so I can't see the egi glamour being different unfortunately

[AnimaAnimus]

most of any good looking gear we get these days is cash shop exclusive so I can't see the egi glamour being different unfortunately

That is completely up for debate seeming tastes are wide and varied. The cash shop has mostly npc and Asian inspired glam, so if that is your thing this holds true. However not all of us are obsessed with jp culture or wanna roll play as a scion so we like the dungeon gear or eden gear or crafted gear and so on. I personally, love the new steampunk inspired neo-ishgardian gear since that is totally my jam and wouldn't be caught dead in a kimono as I do not like the aesthetic at all. So this is a completely irrelevant claim.

[Leidolf]

Honestly, they could easily tie into the player suddenly being able to summon Leviathan and Ramuh post-ShB and Eden lore-wise.

[EpicOverlord85]

I just wish Square would lean back into Sholar/Summoner being true pet classes again instead of removing it :/

[Brightamethyst]

I just wish Square would lean back into Sholar/Summoner being true pet classes again instead of removing it :/

The be fair, pet classes are always super wonky in MMOs. You have to make crazy allowances for them in regards to mechanics and AoEs and pathing and so on, to the point where it's more trouble than it's worth. Pet classes are super cool in theory but insanely hard for the dev team to manage.