Punishing divas who jump ship before a dungeon even begins.

[Reynhart]

It is. No doubt it can also punish people that have real reasons for dropping out of the blue like new parents who need to AFK at a moments notice or people taking care of a family member, important call, etc.

I'm a "new" parent, and if I HAVE to withdraw for something important IRL, I couldn't care less about losing one day of daily bonus on one of my roulette.

Daily Roulette are not something you absolutely have to do each day, it's something that rewards you each day...or you really need to rethink about what is a "game".

[MeiUshu]

err no...lol...I am not sure why you say all because it is e rare...I have played healer all my time since back in 2013, I have done AV a zillion times cant even remember the number, people walking in the poison happens but is just a question of telling them once, what healers dont like, is heal constantly or better said work, which at times is just a pain especialyl when barely geared for it, I can grant this...other then that is a pretty easy dungeon, difficulty is just with the cyclope, where most people forget to move when giant look at them or dont focus on the giant to see when he is about to cast his swing or swipe.

the only real problem I had was with tanks not geared or pulling entire rooms and over estimating their capacity to hold aggro..other that there is nothing hard in there.

Everybody makes it evil, when is just THE dungeon in my eyes to level to cover the last mile to reach 50.

Each to their own really...and is true ..Patience is a virtue that even Saints at time lose

Just me though

Mei

[Exu83]

Punishing people does nothing.
I can always choose not to play the game since I have more than enough things to do (and other games to play).
More punishments leads to more people avoiding DF, which then causes longer queues, etc.

What SE needs to do is add more incentive for us to actually bother with those dungeons.
That's how you get people to participate, not by scaring them away.

Use some common sense, people.

PS: If I want my bonus, I'll queue up with friends/FC. So arguing that way is pointless as well.

[Adventica6]

Have you ever tanked aurum vale or Darkhold with a bunch of green leaf noobs ? not exactly a good time.

[MitsukiKimura]

Have you ever tanked aurum vale or Darkhold with a bunch of green leaf noobs ? not exactly a good time.

That shouldn't be reason to just quit from a dungeon. I've handled tanks who only pulled 1 to 2 mobs in Thousand maws dungeon throughout the entire way. Beginners gotta start somewhere, suck it up and enjoy the ride.

[QT_Melon]

I did try going through to see it it was mentioned why people quit at the beginning but...

Obviously those that don't want to spend time in that dungeon quit...or have to leave.

In quite a few cases, people are funneled into a dungeon that no one in the party needs. No worries if someone wants to quit. As a person who has started out as a DPS I know the feeling of long queues and will stay if people need it. But if no one needs it, the game has no way of determining that I quit for X reason - so punishing someone for a longer time than already there doesn't discriminate why a person left a dungeon.

Speeding up queues for friends before a player has to log out. In the case of a lot of dungeons, queue times are ridiculously long, especially MSQ especially. It's faster to queue in for a DPS if a healer is in the party for that content and go on without a healer (they eventually get replaced a good number of times) and the MSQ is quite easy with them missing anyways.

Another reason are bots. Sorry not gonna waste any time being in queue with bots.

Now if they can base a penalty system on people quitting on those that are IN NEED of said dungeons and 2 those in need players are not bots. I'm all for it. But if people are quitting because the instance a bunch of 50 players are getting is Tam Tara (and they don't need it). I don't see taking the regular penalty is a problem.

This isn't going to solve everything because Yoshi P has designed the current state for players to be able to take longer breaks from it anyways because he does want players to go play other games and come back to it, instead of being on it so much you burnout and quit. So a longer penalty isn't going to work. Forcing a dungeon on al lower level dungeon until you complete it, is going to make me avoid that roulette for a long time, and getting tomes isn't that hard. Leveling roulette is useless unless I was leveling a job :P

[LalaRu]

It may be also good have a penalty for thread necromancers, maybe one day of forum post locking for each month the thread was old, is sufficient to have some well known people necroing just once per year!

[DynnDiablos]

There are certain dungeons, trials etc I just have no interest in suffering through, so I rather take my 30 penalty and be done with it. The party will fill again, no harm, no foul.

[Ammokkx]

TitanMen does find the best threads to necro.

[KylePearlsand]

At least this one has some relevance I suppose...