5.2 Liveletter

[Crushnight]

I think they are taking back feedback but the OF isn't the only source. Consequently, it would be interesting to see feedback from the JP side as well. But at the same time they're under no obligation to take action given the feedback, especially if they don't agree without issues.

Disclaimer: I used Google translate so any one able to understand Japanese can freely correct me. I will also be summarising but feel free to look for yourself as it is the 800+ post thread on 1st page

Based on what I was reading (page 1 to page 15) they have separated into 2 groups the Guren group (old card system) and the jet black group (new card system) the most voted for comments(within the 15 pages of translation) which are found page 5,9,11,12,14.

All gravitate towards the Guren system, how the jet black system has lost judgemental calls (person even said be fine with all cards the same if had same amount of judgement calls with the cards) and flavour was lost to efficiency.

Opinions matter regardless and that the fact more people are complaining now is a sign that something is wrong with the job and needs looked at.

Do not buff Ast just to increase numbers.

Someone levelling Ast finds it boring and unfun and prefers the Guren system and wish it would return.

Does not like that may have to wait 2 yrs to see any improvements to either card system.



Now this looks so lopsided but the jet black system group do get a good amount of support it is just the Guren system tends to have higher satisfaction within their community (4yrs vs <1yr kinda does that). But based on what I was reading Japanese players are as unhappy as we are and the card system is just as divisive.

[MitsukiKimura]

Opinions matter regardless and that the fact more people are complaining now is a sign that something is wrong with the job and needs looked at.

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I couldn't agree more. How else are people going to voice their opinion over a change? Would you rather have people just quit straight up then find out after? We give feedback over something we don't like or like, in hopes for change. Same goes for how people voice their opinions over how other classes play such as the long "Re work Monk" Thread I've seen. When you have so many threads created about the dissatisfaction over the card system, it's not hard to tell people don't enjoy it.

[Rai_Takara]

Disclaimer: I used Google translate so any one able to understand Japanese can freely correct me. I will also be summarising but feel free to look for yourself as it is the 800+ post thread on 1st page

Based on what I was reading (page 1 to page 15) they have separated into 2 groups the Guren group (old card system) and the jet black group (new card system) the most voted for comments(within the 15 pages of translation) which are found page 5,9,11,12,14.

All gravitate towards the Guren system, how the jet black system has lost judgemental calls (person even said be fine with all cards the same if had same amount of judgement calls with the cards) and flavour was lost to efficiency.

Opinions matter regardless and that the fact more people are complaining now is a sign that something is wrong with the job and needs looked at.

Do not buff Ast just to increase numbers.

Someone levelling Ast finds it boring and unfun and prefers the Guren system and wish it would return.

Does not like that may have to wait 2 yrs to see any improvements to either card system.



Now this looks so lopsided but the jet black system group do get a good amount of support it is just the Guren system tends to have higher satisfaction within their community (4yrs vs <1yr kinda does that). But based on what I was reading Japanese players are as unhappy as we are and the card system is just as divisive.

Interesting.

Again it's up to SE to decide. As always though, people are more likely to voice dissatisfaction than satiafaction. I don't think AST will change much this expansion but will see if it does for the next.

[Gemina]

Disclaimer: I used Google translate so any one able to understand Japanese can freely correct me. I will also be summarising but feel free to look for yourself as it is the 800+ post thread on 1st page

Based on what I was reading (page 1 to page 15) they have separated into 2 groups the Guren group (old card system) and the jet black group (new card system) the most voted for comments(within the 15 pages of translation) which are found page 5,9,11,12,14.

What's the name of the group that has issues with both card systems?

I don't want to sound bitter and say I was happy the old system was gone when 5.0 dropped. Rather, I was excited for another opportunity to enjoy AST. I have expressed on many occasions why I feel the way I do about the old system, so for the sake of simplicity let's just say I didn't enjoy it, and I eventually dropped AST. Six months have now passed since we got ShB, and just like in SB I eventually dropped AST due to a card system that strips the enjoyment right out of the job.

In my time with the job, which I will admit is not as extensive as SCH but more than WHM, I have surmised that this damn card mechanic is making it extremely difficult to get this job right. As simply a healer, it is just fine. And oddly enough, if you toss the cards right out the window, the job immediately becomes more enjoyable to play. That has got to say something.

Drawing a card should be exciting, and full of anticipation. Right now, I dread seeing the draw and sleeve draw timers getting closer to zero. It shouldn't be that way. We should be looking at those timers tick down and think, "Hell yeah! Card coming!" Each card should have a desired beneficial impact so when it is draw time, it isn't a matter of, "Will this card be beneficial, or fodder?" It would be more of along the lines of, "I know this draw is going to benefit my party. I just don't know how it will."