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    Lets get even further, Beast Tribes interracial with the other races or with other Beast Tribes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saix027 View Post
    Lets get even further, Beast Tribes interracial with the other races or with other Beast Tribes?
    Before this goes too far - I'd fathom that just like some races in the real world, those aren't biologically compatible and thus wouldn't produce offspring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RicaRuin View Post
    Before this goes too far - I'd fathom that just like some races in the real world, those aren't biologically compatible and thus wouldn't produce offspring.
    Given as real world genetic hybrids require a close genetic match between parents to produce offspring, and most beast tribes have very different biology (sylphs reproduce more like plants, amalj'aa are allergic to large quantities of water, pixies are the reincarnated souls of children, etc.) yeah, it's pretty safe to say they probably can't produce offspring with the spoken races or each other.

    Some of the spoken races probably can't interbreed with each other either, while others can. [Hrothgar x Hyur] probably would not work, but [Hrothgar x Miqo'te] and [Miqo'te x Hyur] might. Also worth noting that most if not all genetic hybrids (ligers, mules, etc.) are sterile in real life.

    (People will still imagine Hyur (Humans) can interbreed with just about anything, as is their wont.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    (People will still imagine Hyur (Humans) can interbreed with just about anything, as is their wont.)
    The game occasionally uses the word "humans" to refer to all of the player races collectively (and presumably Garleans, as well), which leads me to believe that the racial variants are similar to breeds of dogs - sometimes dramatically different in appearance, but all the same species and all technically interfertile. (I say technically because, while genetically compatible, sheer physical differences may make some pairings incompatible.)

    However, admittedly it IS the case that all known half-breeds (Hilda, Arenvald, and the unnamed legendary Au Ra princess) have been the result of Hyur-plus-other, so you could be right.
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    Well Au Ra are basically humans who got voidsent DNA in their past somewhere. Makes sense that they'd be able to have children with hyur.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyssahtyn View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeacefulEdge View Post
    Black and White scales can be explained through the trait being codominant, and in the Miqo case if the teeth trait and iris trait are independant then is posible too. Now im puzzled if hyur skin color is considered an ethnia or highlanders are.
    Interesting! I really hope the mixing and matching clan traits option becomes a thing soon (is this from the live letter or somewhere else?) in this case.

    I have yet to see any Au Ra NPCs with both black and white scales, but it would be nice to see any indication of a canon mixed-clan Au Ra.i’m

    Quote Originally Posted by Stepjam View Post
    Well Au Ra are basically humans who got voidsent DNA in their past somewhere. Makes sense that they'd be able to have children with hyur.
    That’s a misconception born from internet telephone about Yoshi-P saying they used demonic motifs in addition to draconic ones when drafting Au Ra (and you can see that in the titles of the concept arts of you look them up; some say “dragon race” while others say “demonic”. Ultimately though, there’s literally no reference to possible voidsent relation in-game (which is the be all end all canon source); they’re only speculated (key word is “speculated”) to possibly be descended from dragons and even had experienced persecution from Ishgardians for looking draconic, but the real answer is “It Is A Mystery”. And as Mikko pointed out, the fact they exist on the First (and are called “Drahn”, no less like the game isn’t already throwing references they look like dragons everywhere, lol) makes it highly unlikely they have any relation at all to voidsent. They most likely are an Au Naturale (no pun intended) race.

    Personally, I think it’s possible for them to be descended from offspring of any of the First Brood since they’ve been everywhere including Othard and they simply became more and more diluted over time. Or alternately they evolved from reptilian beings similar to Amal’jaa and whether through natural selection or crossbreeding with Hyur. they ended up the way they did.

    All I can say is, they definitely are partly reptilian at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kujoestars View Post
    Personally, I think it’s possible for them to be descended from offspring of any of the First Brood since they’ve been everywhere including Othard and they simply became more and more diluted over time.
    Dragons don't exist on the first, yet the Drahn are there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    The game occasionally uses the word "humans" to refer to all of the player races collectively (and presumably Garleans, as well), which leads me to believe that the racial variants are similar to breeds of dogs - sometimes dramatically different in appearance, but all the same species and all technically interfertile. (I say technically because, while genetically compatible, sheer physical differences may make some pairings incompatible.)
    This, though.

    An even more extreme example of intraspecies morphological differences in the real world...the following vegetables are all the same species, Brassica oleracea, but have wildly differing forms.
    • Kale
    • Collard greens
    • Gai-lan
    • Cabbage
    • Savoy
    • Brussels sprouts
    • Kohlrabi
    • Broccoli
    • Broccolini
    • Broccoflower
    • Broccoli romanesco
    • Cauliflower
    • Wild broccoli
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saix027 View Post
    Lets get even further, Beast Tribes interracial with the other races or with other Beast Tribes?
    I... I just got in my head the fleeting image of a half namazu/half sahagin individual. I'm scared.
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