Valentines day event fail

[Kusanagi7]

People shouldn't be voting if they're ignoring context, though unfortunately there isn't really a way to avoid that happening. At least it's consistent for seasonal events to be written rather poorly, though...

More thought seems to go into the decorating of the housing districts/original city states than the actual quest chains with only a few exceptions.

and people souldn't be telling others what to do if people want to vote and ignore context they are free to do so.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I doubt this result was intentional on the part of the dev team's, but there's 'slightly biased choice' and then there's 'EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE 68 FFXIV SERVERS IN THE ENTIRE WORLD ALL GOING FOR ASTRID.' Especially when she's widely considered to have the worst advice!

It's weird at best, and downright suspicious at worst. I get that seasonal events are a good chance for the devs to experiment with new ideas, but this one was a bit of a dud. Especially considering that the other two quests literally had to be datamined for people to actually see the other ways this event could have gone down.

Unfortunately, many don't care about context and just wanted red without having to do anything. Again, very analogous to real world voting.

[Theodric]

and people souldn't be telling others what to do if people want to vote and ignore context they are free to do so.

A distinction isn't made between them, though a vote based on investment is much more valuable than a vote cast without meaning.

[Khiinroye]

If they hadn't wanted to have differently named pieces for male and female, they could have just had it give a single set of pre-dyed gear, or even just the crate and the appropriate dye set for it.

The purposes behind Rodrigault and Bert's suggestions were sound. Figuring out what you're looking for in the relationship and picking up a new hobby instead of being "work only" would both be good steps to bettering your chances at finding something. Astrid's suggestion was just problematic, with looking among your workplace or clients. Then again, maybe we could have tried hooking him up with the elezen from the HW dragoon quests, I forget her name.

None of the suggestions on their own were very good. Maybe the whole point of this year's event to set up next year with "they need to work together."

[Allegor]

Considering the results and why they were so ...unbalanced, I think they should've left the outfit and voting system separated entirely and just be something you can buy off the vendor regardless of who you chose...both guys were robbed and even Lisette was very bad at hiding her bias.

[Moomba33]

But yeah I have to agree, and they couldn't have shoehorned Astrid into a victory more than they have. I voted for her as well, but wanted to give them all a fair chance. In the end, despite how foolish and unprofessional it is to seek love from your clientele, it was the least pretentious of the three because at least it stands a chance. Nobody's finding love in a carpenter shop, and self-reflecting in isolation (actually pretty sure that's a damn good way to remain single).

Yeah...I voted for Astrid as well since at least her idea involved him talking to people and being more social. Best to keep work and romance separate in my opinion though.
Looking at the quest result text I honestly think Rodrigault's is the worst. At 30+ hanging out with a young teen is creepy. Even if it's just intended to be as friends Rodrigault's dialogue about it does not help.....
Of the three I consider getting a hobby to meet people being the best general advice but the specifics of joining the carpenter's guild was a bad idea with a predictable end if you're familiar with the guildmaster.

I know a lot of my friends don't care about seasonal events enough to do them unless they want the reward. Would not surprise me at all if a lot of people just skipped through everything to grab the red outfits unaware (or not caring) about the dye option.

Edit: I also share the disappointment of the same character winning on every server. Did SE not realize how badly they skewing things in Astrid's favour by giving her red? Being the only known npc versus 2 new ones? It seems like they wanted her to win with even Lisette shilling for her, but then why have a vote at all?

[Mahrze]

None of the suggestions on their own were very good. Maybe the whole point of this year's event to set up next year with "they need to work together."

There was no need for choice if not only you could dye any of them any color you wanted, but the design was essentially the same. And as much as I want to believe this is "future proofing next event" its still a horrible execution when there was no "alternative outcome" according to the current feedback.

I know a lot of my friends don't care about seasonal events enough to do them unless they want the reward. Would not surprise me at all if a lot of people just skipped through everything to grab the red outfits unaware (or not caring) about the dye option.

Pretty sure this was the case in the end.

[Sated]

People shouldn't be voting if they're ignoring context, though unfortunately there isn't really a way to avoid that happening.

Ideally, yea.
Maybe if they hadn't attached the voting to the rewards. Like if they awarded the outfit (red only) for accepting the quest and listening to everyone's proposals, and having a completely "optional" quest afterwords that only awards chocolates regardless of who you vote for.

If the intent was to test the actual story with as little cosmetic bias as possible, making it dyable wasn't enough. I think they should have put more thought into other things that might influence choices (not all players are going going to realize or care that they can dye their pieces - even the item names almost swayed me since they're something I can never change).

Hopefully next year's event will go better. For those we can yet save.

[linay]

Is the result posted outside of the game or do I need to view it in game? And can I see every world's results or just my own?

[Hasrat]

Yeah...I voted for Astrid as well since at least her idea involved him talking to people and being more social. Best to keep work and romance separate in my opinion though.

See, I sorta read it in this direction, but taking it further. Everyone's all "don't hit on your clients, that's bad!" But, nothing is saying he specifically has to pursue the clients themselves. He's just chatting them up, being social and friendly. And if one of them happens to know somebody that's single and maybe tries to set them up on a blind date...

Picking up a new hobby won't amount to anything, the guy would still just be a loner, with a new hobby. And in this particular case, not a very sociable hobby.
And "figuring out what you're looking for" doesn't really solve the problem either. The guy needs experiences and interactions more than anything. Arguably easier to discover what it is he doesn't want in a partner before trying to build up impossible standards.

No. Opening up to clientele, not strictly pursuing, but simply engaging, seemed like the only real hope for progress. The goal isn't love right away. In this case, what was needed was to get him out of his shell. Astrid was the only one to recognize that need.