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    Quote Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru View Post
    Not saying anything major like good/evil choices but sometimes through the story I personally would have made a choice to Join with zenos or help Emat
    Choices have consequences.

    In the case of one of your favorites, Emet, you don't learn enough about what you appear to consider The Truth until it is too late. Your choices at that point are
    (a) die in an explosion of light that triggers the next calamity or (b) fight and defeat Emet.


    Option (a) is End of Story. You aren't invited to the after-party. You can now unsub as you've won(?) the game.

    Option (b) plays out as it does in game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    Choices have consequences.

    In the case of one of your favorites, Emet, you don't learn enough about what you appear to consider The Truth until it is too late. Your choices at that point are (a) die in an explosion of light that triggers the next calamity or (b) fight and defeat Emet.

    Option (a) is End of Story. You aren't invited to the after-party. You can now unsub as you've won(?) the game.

    Option (b) plays out as it does in game.

    Thats my very point given the choie would lead to both side consequence it doesn't have to flat out end just because you choice to be a spy for ascians until the story reachs the end of the story which would have 2 options

    Option 1: you aid the rejoining and story ends with you as the new leader of the ascions
    option 2: you wipe out the threat completely blah blah save meaningless lifes basic booring goody toe shoes ending.

    Even though I don't like microsoft one example of the flow-chart time line that could work fine is Fable you can literaly just create a story and before you enter it grant two options option 1. basic(good) option 2: bad maybe like helping a guy steal a item or betray and give information to the good choices enemys or help a primal be summoned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru View Post
    Option 1: you aid the rejoining and story ends with you as the new leader of the ascions
    Didn't you pay attention to the end of the story line?
    Emet considers you flawed and broken, a suitable tool to bring about a Calamity, but no more.


    You are not one of the candidates for Ascian of the Month.

    My advice -- write fan fiction using the story line you just described and post it. You can totally control that story and the rest of us can continue to play the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    Didn't you pay attention to the end of the story line?
    Emet considers you flawed and broken, a suitable tool to bring about a Calamity, but no more.


    You are not one of the candidates for Ascian of the Month.

    My advice -- write fan fiction using the story line you just described and post it. You can totally control that story and the rest of us can continue to play the game.
    did you? at the ending he values your worth on the final scene and ask you to not forget them at the very ending of him he no values you completely after the battle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru View Post
    did you? at the ending he values your worth on the final scene and ask you to not forget them at the very ending of him he no values you completely after the battle.
    What I saw in that last scene was the final stage of grief: acceptance.

    No value judgement necessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    What I saw in that last scene was the final stage of grief: acceptance.

    No value judgement necessary.
    well that proves my point things are subjected to the person view or believe this is true in just about every decent story. There just isn't this built in effect in anything really a real prime example is the anime Death note, while X amount of people view Light's mission as wrong and evil there are just as many people who believe what he was doing in the story as a good thing. The same can be said of Mr.freeze,ivy and many other characters in storys... thats the beauty in choices is it allows great depth instend of a built in lameness that has little to no story depth by allowing the person to take in the story and view it then take it based off how you would take it if you were really there in your characters shoes what would you choice. This expansion opended up a door that could be taken by the viewer has one way or another.

    It's similar to the primals honestly while some people can view them as bad some people can get the beast tribes are using them as a defense no diffrent than any other character asking a god to help them like the ones we get a option from when making a character.


    Thats the thing about choices yes it has a price but it also creates real cause and effect and not like basic layout... Its like saying all pasta is the same because its pasta when what choice of sauce you use causes it to have other taste this creates strong storys.

    Choice grants real cause and effect walking the same bright light path is the reason why so many goody toe shoe storys are the same thing yes they might have diffrent characters and diffrent worlds/lay out/powers etc but the real fact of it is its booring everyone knows how the story is going to end the second it starts with that kind of story the goody toe shoes wins destroys the great evil with the power of "Friendship" or "light" and I'm sorry but if you know where the story is going from the start its a bad story lol

    In this games terms when you split from the scions you know your going to re meet them again you knew the one mage was going to give up his life from the start of meeting him just like you know your character wasn't going to be overwhelmed by warden power from the second you started them brining up "well she is not like the way she was on the first and that worrys me" Had no depth what so ever when you the viewer/player/reader knew nothing bad was going to happan in the end
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