Square Enix should adopt a curated mod gallery/collection ala Skyrim / Fallout 4

[Penthea]

Again, keep in mind the gigantic amount of players who have enjoyed Bethesda games despite ALL THE BUGS, vanilla. Specifically on console. A friend of mine is a good example, he always tells me how he LOVED Skyrim, but hates Bethesda all their games are "buggy messes now", he doesn't know "what happened since Fallout 4 and Fallout 76!". So I asked him what he played Skyrim on, CONSOLE NO MODS. So I asked him why didn't the broken game bother you then? It's group think since Fallout 76, especially. The games stand on their own without mods despite being badly written, retcon filled, buggy messes.


Also, trust me despite what everyone says about Fallout 76, it's still a fairly active game. Despire the bugs, despite the hacks, despite everything, It still has a large fanbase of devoted players who buy their microtransactions and their Fallout 1st.

It is entirely subjective.

I don't think it's subjective if the bugs cause frustration or don't go unnoticed.

I played Skyrim to death but there are many times when I cursed the game for just randomly flipping out. It was extremely annoying at times, and sometimes I had to take breaks because I got so tired of it. I always went back to the game because I love the story and the mechanics, but I took more breaks from it than I normally would with a game that has little to no issues.

Just because you continue playing a buggy game does not mean the issues are subjective. It just means that the game has other elements that keep bringing you back. A game having good things that get you hooked doesn't automatically render problems subjective.

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I don't think it's subjective if the bugs cause frustration or don't go unnoticed.

I played Skyrim to death but there are many times when I cursed the game for just randomly flipping out. It was extremely annoying at times, and sometimes I had to take breaks because I got so tired of it. I always went back to the game because I love the story and the mechanics, but I took more breaks from it than I normally would with a game that has little to no issues.

Just because you continue playing a buggy game does not mean the issues are subjective. It just means that the game has other elements that keep bringing you back. A game having good things that get you hooked doesn't automatically render problems subjective.

So, you are giving me an example of your very own subjective experience?

No, the issues aren't subjective. What is subjective is what was originally posted:

skyrim being bad without mods is entirely subjective. you can stomp your feet and cry about it but that won't make it true.

A large amount of people find bethesda games, even Fallout 76 good, despite all the issues therein. There are people who continue to play older bethesda titles like Morrowind, oblivion, fallout 3 without a single mod and they find those games good despite the bad. Are you going to tell me those games aren't just as filled with bugs? The games are good, despite the bad, otherwise none of them would have ever become so popular. It was not mods, I can tell you that for sure.