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    Gravagar's Avatar
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    Amanogawa Murasaki
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Imagine the darkest timeline where our good lad Masayoshi Soken is forced to live in a world where kneesocks and shoes are all foot-slot gear. Nobody can wear kneesocks together with shoes, aside from a few pieces. I mean, of course he can wear those together on his job AF, right? His job icon is literally just a pair of kneesocks, c'mon!



    Thaaaat's what it's like to be a glasses fan with no mods. My job icon is an actual pair of glasses. My options for hats+glasses are very slim. I don't want to use mods, of course, but that leaves me at square one... I want more bespectacled hats, perhaps a /visor toggle added to a lot of older hats to add glasses, a pair of earrings that's actually just glasses (let's be real, any head gear that covers the face hides earrings by default anyway, right? if not, that's a simple fix- and this is what modders have btw), maybe an NPC with an open-ended dialogue that asks "show me which head gear you want to be bespectacled" -> "now show me which glasses you want paired with it" -> "by the power of the brightest timeline, I grant you (ex: ) this Bespectacled Makai Moon Guide's Circlet! :OOO" "or perhaps you wanted an Enhatted Shaded Spectacles...? (depends which item you want to be dyable)


    I know it's hard to overturn half a decade of neglect on this, but since Yoshida decided to talk about modding... This is the top of my wishlist of "things that I know modders have, of which I fantasia'd into a viera so that I would not be tempted to partake in", and if we got it legitimately, then I'd fantasia back onto au'ra same-day.
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    Last edited by Gravagar; 02-09-2020 at 01:28 AM. Reason: accidental emoji

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    Elzen Man
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    Raiden
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    Samurai Lv 70
    They would need private servers or something because mods would replace cosmetic items. Players are far superior to devs when it comes to designing armor. Fallout 76 was debating on adding mods due to this, but came to the conclusion of private servers if I recall correctly. Mods for mmo are tricky, because game makers are greedy. A sub is not enough, they want to charge you for more than that.
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    Kyara Nemura
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    Raiden
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Personally, I look at mods as a way of implementing what the game lacks. (within reason) I dunno, that’s just me anyway.
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    Sigma Alpheratz
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    Faerie
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    White Mage Lv 99
    The way I see this is that mods would enable players to do (create) what the developers don't want to do.


    We could walk barefoot at last and even make HQ textures that would make the game look much better, all SE would have to do is make sure the mods work correctly.
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    C'rysta Zeith
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    Sargatanas
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    Archer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SigmaOZ View Post
    The way I see this is that mods would enable players to do (create) what the developers don't want to do.


    We could walk barefoot at last and even make HQ textures that would make the game look much better, all SE would have to do is make sure the mods work correctly.
    But, that is basically the whole point of this. If SE would want to invest time and money, into setting up a curated modding gallery, where they would have to verify if the Mods don't happen to break anything in their game. They could've invested that same time and money into creating content, system updates or even HQ Textures.

    One thing that still doesn't change, is the fact that people are modifying files created by another party (SE). Meaning that the modding community are changing elements which the development team spent hours creating, verifying, testing and bugfixing. I think its perfectly normal for a company or a development team, not wanting to support changes made to their content. Especially if said mod would go outside of their design philosophy, or give the user an advantage over others who don't mod the game (like using a plugin that automatically places waymarks on the ground when a certain mechanic is being prepared/cast).
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    Inglis Eucus
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    Only one affected by mods is the one that using them. They don't affect anyone else's gaming experience. I don't think its good idea to use them but if they use them and game breaks where you can't play. you can't feel bad for them. I know Conan Exiles has a mod menu to it.
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    Raiya Li
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    Ragnarok
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    Dancer Lv 100
    The thing about mods is that while some thing's should be incorporated into the game if the meet quality standards (eg, ports of ingame hair models like Hilda's or uptexturing of hair textures to HQ standards, HQ textured eye models, etc theres even a SFW version of a NSFW mod that gives better base underwear that looks better than the default plastic barbiedoll looking ones) other's can't be unless they're verified to be original creations and this is where the problem happens, there's some beautiful mods that give some amazing costumes but some I've seen have been ported from other games and they obviously cant be used in an official capacity due to this.

    That being said if someone creates mods that are from EXISTING game development resource that are 100% owned by SE like say designs for a costume that include not only drawings but the model data as well as a base then there should at least be some way of submitting those for at least consideration there's some people out there who are EXTREMELY good and have managed to basically modify existing ingame assets and improved upon them including some really beautiful long hair styles which the dev team have avoided so far that are as long as Y'sale's for example, if those submissions were also public this would actually work in favour because not only could it be up on say the forum for example for a significant amount of time but if the item was say ripped from another game it would be shot down much sooner.

    Modifying the official client of course would still be a nono that they cannot support of course they cant put something in the terms and do the opposite and that's the whole conundrum BUT if there was say an official model viewer SEPERATE from the game which allowed you to basically port a model of a character into purely for the purpose of displaying all ingame gear and costumes purely for the development of models with certain ground rules on its use (aka no nude mods no making models of costumes/items from other games, all creations must be ORIGINAL and not a rip from another IP) then that would allow them to solve the issue without basically breaking their own ToS. It would be essentially be providing an official costume dev kit for modelers whos successful submissions could be added to the game. Rather than fight the mod community they could utilize it and successful winners basically get the glory of say an ingame prize and official recognition of their creation being an ingame item.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MintnHoney View Post
    Players are free to request anything. Players currently request a lot of things right now, and many of those requests fall on deaf ears.
    So basically, you're worried about something that's already happening.
    Obviously. It's about minimizing obstacles.
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