Thank you Yoshi for your stance on DPS meters

[winsock]

I don't think the game should have a DPS meter, but mostly because of how the game is balanced and how easy it is to misinterpret raw DPS numbers. I much prefer the current system when it comes to assessing hard DPS numbers.

However, I think the game is currently a bit unfair to DPS. If I make big mistakes tanking or healing, it's pretty obvious I did something wrong, but making DPS mistakes are much less obvious. If a DPS is pulling half of what they should be pulling, how do they even know to reassess their gear/rotation?

I do hope SE implements something to give DPS a better idea of their performance, even if it isn't a raw DPS comparison.

[Nhadaly]

As a 99% player that has played this game for 3 years now trying to be the best that i can be, i can say that nothing will change, YoshiP repeats this same thing every year.

Parsers will continue to be used by every raider that wants to improve themselves while the casual community that hates them will continue to make their own groups.

Things will continue as they were, the OP here is just blowing things out of proportion to fit their own personal agenda.

Whether or not parsers incite toxicity or not is another issue entirely, i personally believe that its not the tools fault but the person themselves that is toxic, the tool shows nothing but data, its what people use that data for that matters, a tool that shows data cant be inherently toxic, its what humans do with it that matters, and any harassment using that tool falls under their harassment policy, the ACT thing is just an extra.

The same thing happened with Arthars, he was toxic towards a player and thats why he got banned, not because he had a tool showing data.

[0xReki]

The tool enables toxic behaviour. That's what happens. That's undeniable. It's quite a shame some people just ruin things for others. I completely understand how it can give you pointers on how to improve etc. But people to use it to shame others or just to silently kick them. So banning people for toxic behaviour is just the right thing to do.

[Tlachtga]

tbh regardless of whether they add an official parser or not, the toxicity will still happen as it always has. you just won't see it, cos its done behind people's backs in private discords and chat channels.

It's the XIV way. Smile to your face while sticking a dagger in your back. Ignorance is bliss.

[hasana]

It's quite a shame some people just ruin things for others.

Yes it really sad when 1 or 2 people underperforming and who can't be bother to watch a guide on how to play their jobs are holding 6-7 people back and ruining the run for others.

[Deceptus]

YoshiP is a former WoW enthusiast, so no wonder why he is against the DPS meters.

But one thing does not let me go, if they are so against it why are they making savage content so dependent on good DPS then? Smells like elephant big contradiction isnt it? Why design a activity that has a real DPS "timer" in it if they are punishing people for calling out someone for the low dps?
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This is my stance on it. You simply can't have DPS based mechanics with zero way other than pass / fail to measure said dps. Groups need feedback to know how and what they're doing wrong.

[Gula]

As a PS4 player, ya really don't need them. People, clearly, want them. But no player truly needs them.

[Liam_Harper]

You're right. They do lead to toxicity, and I am thrilled that you and the team are adamant about keeping a meter out of the game. Thank you for your stalwart position on this matter.

You mean the stalwart position of "By all means use dps meters, just don't say anything. If Alexya Ultor has low dps, it's fine if you instantly kick them without any input. Difference in playstyle. Asking them or offering advice will get you an instant ban".
If that makes you happy, sure.

This post is just a "we won" bait toward those "nasty elitists" so I won't fuel it further, but I maintain my opinion that at least official dps meters in EX upwards only would be fine.

Legitimately all that you have to do to deal decent/good DPS is press all of your OGCDs the moment they come off cooldown and keep pressing your combos or ranged attacks otherwise. It's not hard to do.

Not entirely.

The most important thing for dps by far is uptime. That means always be casting/pressing buttons, as you said, but to do it while dodging mechanics. For melee you want to be in melee range as much as possible, for casters you want to move as little as possible. Sounds obvious but this is deceptively difficult, a lot of inexperienced players will think "better to be safe" and run too far and for too long, pausing in their rotation, assuming that dodging attacks is unavoidable so any lost damage can't be helped.
It takes practice, you start learning when you can sneak an extra gcd in, the range of certain aoe, whether you even need to move with that aoe marker, predicting mechanics in advance to save movement, how to utilize gap closers. +2 seconds here and +2 seconds there can add up to 30 seconds over an 8 minute fight, and 30 seconds extra smashing the boss in the face is a ton of damage. It's the difference between grey and purple/orange. A lot of players just don't see that, dead dps does no dps right? You have to dodge stuff. That's something a meter can highlight, but still just dodging isn't enough to be a great dps.

[Saradain]

Absolutely nothing will change. Parsers and mods will continue to exist, in places where Square Enix have no power, to be used in-game for the same activities people complain about being toxic. Calling this drawn line as a victory is funny and the arguments against these things like parsers are still the same with no merit or proof. It'll be like always - if a person cannot carry his/her weight he/she WILL be kicked from the party under any other explanation but parser data. You want to play a multiplayer game in team content but you feel you have no obligation to ensure your worth to the team? Please.

Once upon a time, it was normal that people could expect one to perform decently to not be a burden to your team, not prioritizing your own fun (of not being good enough) over 7 other people's fun and time. It used to be admirable to strive to become better and to work as a team, not as a single person plugging your ears and covering your eyes, chanting Yoshi-P's name to avoid criticism (before, actual toxic "feedback, from now on - any kind of feedback).

Now, a mere mention of improvement is looked down upon, because some people cannot take any criticism without feeling assaulted or personally witch-hunted.

Now, we officially can be dead weight and ensure the Party Finder will continue to become even worse, all under the protection of Yoshi-P - in a multiplayer game where a single player can and will bring down the whole party.

What a world we live in.

[Divinemights]

Things will be changed:

SE will policing social media
All streamers with ACTs will be ban
All you tubers will be ban
All the less intellectuals that post modified NSFW on major social media platform will be ban