5.2 Liveletter

[Bernkastelx]

People are going to overact regardless of the time they release balance info (90% of the time these people have no clue how the thing they are whining about fully functions) the issue is this is another sign they can't take constructive criticism. We have multiple people in the community that crunch the numbers and perform sims better than the dev team ever could. With that said welcome to 3-12 months of waiting for them to "balance" your favorite job cause its here to stay.

[Schan]

It's a double edged sword for sure but it's not like they have ever acted on feedback before the content gets released as far as I can remember so they might as well just deal with it after it comes out instead of having months of people complaining regardles if they understand what they are complaining about or not.

It's an annoying decision for sure but I can see where it comes from.

I guess we're all Heavensward MCH and DRK now (it'll take years until our jobs get fixed)

[ForteNightshade]

Honestly comes off as cowardly to me. They've been called out several times about how bad things would be before it came out, and instead of listening they did it anyway, and guess what? It ended up bad. Remember energy drain? Remember how everyone said that was an awful idea to get rid of it when it was first announced and they did it anyways? Remember how, to nobody's surprise, other than SE, it was terrible? Comes off to me as they don't like being called out. Some times I swear the devs in this game want it to be Weenie Hut Jr.

4.0 Lilies
Red Mage and Samurai low damage
Tank Stance having a gauge cost
White Mage and Black Mage having no utility
Piercing debuff

And that's just to name a few times when the community called out their bad design decisions only to be proven right.

[EaMett]

But in all honesty, not knowing till the patch goes live makes me more worried and concerned, not less.

This.
If the community had a habit of reading the changes wrong, consistently, then I would find this train of thought perfectly acceptable and logical. But the fact that we've all been able to predict how things would turn out accurately makes this sound like they don't want to deal with the backlash before the content goes out. (vs dealing with it once it's live)

[Side-Eye]

This.
If the community had a habit of reading the changes wrong, consistently, then I would find this train of thought perfectly acceptable and logical. But the fact that we've all been able to predict how things would turn out accurately makes this sound like they don't want to deal with the backlash before the content goes out. (vs dealing with it once it's live)

Not releasing details is less about dealing with backlash (they know that's coming regardless), and more to do with the fact that everything in the upcoming patch has already been finalized and they're busy working on patch 5.25.

If they gave details too far prior to patch release, and the community rightly protested a change that was going to hit a job particularly badly, it would *look* like devs ignored the community and proceeded with the change anyway. Fact is, unless something was going to lead to hacks/abuse, they wouldn't be able to alter the change this close to patch time. That code is locked. So their best option is to wait for outcry at patch release, and work any adjustments into the patch coming after it.

[xxvaynxx]

What's wrong with healers?

[Risvertasashi]

This.
If the community had a habit of reading the changes wrong, consistently, then I would find this train of thought perfectly acceptable and logical. But the fact that we've all been able to predict how things would turn out accurately makes this sound like they don't want to deal with the backlash before the content goes out. (vs dealing with it once it's live)

And once a patch is live, SE considers it "locked in"... because they don't do job changes once prog starts. Not that the odds of getting a problem fixed before the lock were very great, but now SE won't touch it at all. Which they probably see as a good thing...

[Mesarthim]

I just stopped having expectations entirely. Maybe the new relics will make me want to log in a little more but I just bounce around GNB, SCH, DNC and RDM (DPS usually in 24 mans).

I'm just playing the waiting game until 6.0. The alternative is art of war spam with occasional oGCD.

[GrimGale]

What's wrong with healers?

We spend most of our runs spamming the damaging spell and healing very little. Savage parsers, heck even regular dungeon runs parsers show the average healer spends at least 50 to 60 percent of their time casting the very boring damage spells. (And that is being generous, most of the time its around 70-80%). This means there is very little to heal and healers find themselves idly standing by if they don't dps.

This upsets both the people that would like to heal more and the people that would like more interesting things to do during healing downtime.

This situation was predicted as far as the first skill reveals of shadowbringers where healers saw their dps spells dramatically reduced in number and their rotations simplified without any apparent increase in encounter healing demand.

[Rai_Takara]

We spend most of our runs spamming the damaging spell and healing very little. Savage parsers, heck even regular dungeon runs parsers show the average healer spends at least 50 to 60 percent of their time casting the very boring damage spells. (And that is being generous, most of the time its around 70-80%). This means there is very little to heal and healers find themselves idly standing by if they don't dps.

This upsets both the people that would like to heal more and the people that would like more interesting things to do during healing downtime.

This situation was predicted as far as the first skill reveals of shadowbringers where healers saw their dps spells dramatically reduced in number and their rotations simplified without any apparent increase in encounter healing demand.

To be fair the "DPSing majority of the time" is kinda the draw to healers in this game. Could DPSing as a healer be more interesting? Sure, but I don't think healers really need to be forced to spam GCD heals as that's just as boring as spamming GCD damage spells.