Quote Originally Posted by SaitoHikari View Post
Where did I say that? Have you even understood what I'm trying to say? Most people don't do Ultimate, like you. That's fine. Whether you raid Ultimate or not is actually irrelevant to what I'm trying to say, all I did was provide one example of an Ultimate raid mechanic that's seriously impacted by this change. But my real point is that people running all kinds of content will move markers during combat for their own reasons throughout their time playing this game.

So, with that, I ask: What benefit is there to restrict that, especially when SE is already giving players one of the features of that third party program, the ability to place preset markers? So people can just go 'haw haw, get gud?' Wasn't this supposed to be a game about teamwork?

I am arguing from a design perspective, and this restriction isn't beneficial in the long term. Especially if it results in people just using such programs to bypass the restriction, and normal players can't replicate the results at all. Is the actual goal to kill the third party app, or restrict the playerbase? Because this decision leans towards the latter far more heavily than the other.
Oh my someone is really certain that I don't do Ultimate. Have you taken to the website that must not be named? Surely if you are that certain that I have not set foot in Ultimates before...

I can tell you at least people won't be able to troll by removing markers. Let me guess, that doesn't happen enough to warrant such drastic measure?
Changing markers during the fight also falls under that argument. It doesn't happen often enough to warrant keeping that in.

You can argue all you want from a design perspective but that is your opinion and the way you predict it will affect the game. My prediction is people will complain about the early pullers in raids, followed by the fact that you can't kick people while the loot is still up for grabs (the timer is huge) followed by people adjusting by puttng them down fast enough.

I will say this again. It will not be as bad as you make it out to be.