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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkpaw View Post
    What would be your alternative?
    How about suspending the players who use said program? We can't have that because it requires they pay attention.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kleeya View Post
    Just be thankful that they didn't scrap the markers entirely from the game XD

    Also with around here so many threads saying that everyone should want to become better at the game, and that FF14 is way too easy, you would think that people would welcome a little difficulty spike instead of complaining about it.
    This doesn't increase difficulty in a compelling or engaging way. It simply makes certain fights vastly more irritating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    How about suspending the players who use said program? We can't have that because it requires they pay attention.



    This doesn't increase difficulty in a compelling or engaging way. It simply makes certain fights vastly more irritating.
    It's not a simple matter of 'paying attention' it would be a matter of installing software into ffxiv to see if people are using programs to place these markers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright-Flower View Post
    It's not a simple matter of 'paying attention' it would be a matter of installing software into ffxiv to see if people are using programs to place these markers.
    Probably an unpopular option - but for the world first teams where Yoshi saw them using these they could ban them even if just temporarily. I mean, he SAW them using it and that's what prompted this in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    How about suspending the players who use said program? We can't have that because it requires they pay attention.
    So you'd be ok with SE scanning players' computers to detect these programs so that said players could be suspended?
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    This is SE's final warning on the following:

    Parer (Especially those streamers)
    3rd Party Tools (for PVE/Feast/Gathering)
    NSFW Mods (Especially those lack of IQ that post on social media)

    Any other discussions or arguments are pointless.
    This is their property and they are about to run out of patience.

    Please also don't bother to give our out of bound example.
    In reality, every business firm forbidden their employees to post images related to the business on social media. You disobey and you get fired; in this case, account termination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    This doesn't increase difficulty in a compelling or engaging way. It simply makes certain fights vastly more irritating.
    But what do you call more irritating ? Having to be more aware of your surroudings, knowing where to go by yourself ? Instead of blindly following what a flashy marker you see from miles away is telling you ? Isn't that just the "get good" that people are asking for so much ?

    That’s not a difficulty spike in my opinion. I believe it’s just a matter of a few developers (or one) getting a bit triggered over seeing a few japanese players abuse the waymarkers and troll with them, and decided to make it a petty removal.

    To me, a difficulty spike is something like Expert recipes in 5.21. A difficulty spike isn’t: adding a retainer under-cut Timer because a few players pissed you off with frequent undercutting. That’s what I get from this. Straight pettiness.
    While you may be right about the developpers being triggered, it will still lead to the fact that players will have to adapt to the changes. That's why i see that as a little difficulty spike since players will not be able anymore to count on something which can make things easier, even if it is only a consequence of what the developpers did choose to do.
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