Now that butt enhancing gear is a thing, can we get bulge enhancing gear someday?

[SturmChurro]

Yeah, it's not often you find a game that lets you make a reasonably decent looking character with actual human proportions. ESO actually has pretty great customization.

Oh yeah, ESO does treat males fairly well, I think that's partly due to the fact that it is a western rpg. Males in it actually do look like men, and I think you can actually add more/less body hair with one of the sliders. I still think the games overall customization is lacking in some areas, like you can change stuff, but I don't think it's enough, personally. I do have male characters in that game though, and none in this so I do have a preference for the male options over there than here. You do get a butt slider, hip slider, and you can broaden your shoulders, or how wide and fat your stomach is or isn't. I always make my guys as handsome as possible, and as muscular as I can (or toned, not really bulky), so I do have some specific tastes when I make a man.

[Arngrim_Greyashe]

Oh yeah, ESO does treat males fairly well, I think that's partly due to the fact that it is a western rpg. Males in it actually do look like men, and I think you can actually add more/less body hair with one of the sliders. I still think the games overall customization is lacking in some areas, like you can change stuff, but I don't think it's enough, personally. I do have male characters in that game though, and none in this so I do have a preference for the male options over there than here. You do get a butt slider, hip slider, and you can broaden your shoulders, or how wide and fat your stomach is or isn't. I always make my guys as handsome as possible, and as muscular as I can (or toned, not really bulky), so I do have some specific tastes when I make a man.

Ha! I totally get that. I guess I usually try to make characters that parallel myself and your point about it being a western game has a lot of merit. I find that Japanese or Korean MMO's typically go for the hairless men who are somehow stacked with muscle but incredibly lithe. (Not this game as much). I myself am a larger and stronger guy so I resonate most with Roe or Highlander in this game, although the customization limitations has me kinda meh about it. But ESO definitely gives you a wider range. Black Desert also has amazing customization, but it falls into some of the stereotypes of eastern MMO's, and reasonably so since they are eastern. I think I'm rambling, but the tldr is, I agree with your points. Lol

[SturmChurro]

Ha! I totally get that. I guess I usually try to make characters that parallel myself and your point about it being a western game has a lot of merit. I find that Japanese or Korean MMO's typically go for the hairless men who are somehow stacked with muscle but incredibly lithe. (Not this game as much). I myself am a larger and stronger guy so I resonate most with Roe or Highlander in this game, although the customization limitations has me kinda meh about it. But ESO definitely gives you a wider range. Black Desert also has amazing customization, but it falls into some of the stereotypes of eastern MMO's, and reasonably so since they are eastern. I think I'm rambling, but the tldr is, I agree with your points. Lol

It's kind of a shame really. A lot of Eastern mmorpgs have some amazing customization options, like how you can tailor make your character, but they always somehow end up making the guys look either extremely bulky, or like... I don't know kind of feminine... and shiny. Like either one extreme, or the other. Always hairless. All the hairstyles suck too, in my opinion, like they are always these really spiky emo type cuts, or like bald/shaved head. That's it. There is never like any inbetween, but western rpg's do usually make males who look like men... just usually lack a lot of options.

Yeah, I usually see guys make either idealized versions of themselves, or these super weird and wacky characters usually. Personally, I usually seperate myself from the characters I play, so while I do have preferences I see them as their own thing. Especially in something like ESO, I actually have all my characters done like how I would play Skyrim or something. They each have lore friendly (sometimes generated) names, and their own personalities. I don't go as far as actually roleplaying with other people though!

[Arngrim_Greyashe]

It's kind of a shame really. A lot of Eastern mmorpgs have some amazing customization options, like how you can tailor make your character, but they always somehow end up making the guys look either extremely bulky, or like... I don't know kind of feminine... and shiny. Like either one extreme, or the other. Always hairless. All the hairstyles suck too, in my opinion, like they are always these really spiky emo type cuts, or like bald/shaved head. That's it. There is never like any inbetween, but western rpg's do usually make males who look like men... just usually lack a lot of options.

Yeah, I usually see guys make either idealized versions of themselves, or these super weird and wacky characters usually. Personally, I usually seperate myself from the characters I play, so while I do have preferences I see them as their own thing. Especially in something like ESO, I actually have all my characters done like how I would play Skyrim or something. They each have lore friendly (sometimes generated) names, and their own personalities. I don't go as far as actually roleplaying with other people though!

I hate when they do the weird feminine shiny characters! WHY ARE THEY SO SHINY? Lol but yeah, overall I wish XIV would at least take a few notes from ESO and BDO in the customization department. And like you said, always hairless with a million long hair options or bald. Never any decent short hair options or even mid length options. I never choose long hair due to clipping in every MMO.

Personally, I do RP but before my RL friend convinced me to switch to Balmung, I had never heard of it. (I was ignorant in MMO's back in those days.) I find it fun to RP as a secondary when the game is in a content lull, but it's not my primary. I also enjoy the lore friendly stuff. I honestly wish ESO was easier to RP in because I love Elder Scrolls lore. But XIV does it well enough that I'll survive. Lol

[Lauront]

You...you realise that it's a basic part of male anatomy, right? That there's not necessarily anything lewd about it?

Games such as Overwatch implement it well by having certain outfits reflect the realistic effect of a subtle bulge when a guy is wearing tight trousers or shorts. Sure, there's a portion of people who will be pushing for it to be implemented due to sex appeal but that isn't necessarily a bad thing either so long as it's handled tastefully. Personally I'd settle for something other than complete flatness.

Same here. I find the complete flatness in the tighter/skimpier outfits to just look utterly weird.

[Dakuryon]

This is 100% mandatory! Let's make it happen --

[Sathona]

SE is so not adding that xD

[MomomiMomi]

Wearing armor or even jeans you want really see a bulge.

Going to have to disagree on this. Maybe some men might not show bulge in jeans. But some do.

[Allegor]

I mean, it is a minor aesthetic thing, but as a male, it's just...weird there's nothing there, nothing at all, not even a shade, on both sides. Sure you get used to it but still wonder...why? Let's reverse the genders - How many women (and men...) would complain if suddenly all female characters were as flat chested as a lala. Don't lie, most of you would, it would be such an uproar it would be patched immediately.

[Dakuryon]

I mean, it is a minor aesthetic thing, but as a male, it's just...weird there's nothing there, nothing at all, not even a shade, on both sides. Sure you get used to it but still wonder...why? Let's reverse the genders - How many women (and men...) would complain if suddenly all female characters were as flat chested as a lala. Don't lie, most of you would, it would be such an uproar it would be patched immediately.

My thoughts exactly!