I wonder if Ast+Sch will become the new meta again

[SweetPete]

I’m anxiously waiting for this Thursday’s live letter. However I can’t help but feel they will buff Astro again and it will make whm go sit in the corner like the previous expansions. With controller users complaining allot about all the single target cards and hating the new card system. I feel SE will bend like they always do. If Astro once again will be able to AOE their cards what will that mean for whm? In savage raiding will whm be reduced to just prog again? What if SE made presence of mind AOE? Divine Benison AOE? Maybe add a damage potency to temperance instead of damage reduction. I miss the old card system too but I don’t want whm to get left behind again. So if they do give Astro at least the ability to aoe their cards again then I feel whm should get some way to buff raid dps as well. Keep all the healers viable. Maybe I’m just thinking to much and SE will not touch the card system. Who knows.

[MitsukiKimura]

If they don't touch the card system then we'll know just how SE feels about AST. It's frustrating, not fun and you won't care about it outside of a third party parser or savage/ultimate group. The class has a big MP issue, also the cards need to be changed to feel less of a hassle to use. The way it sits right now I dread even thinking about doing TEA as an AST. Might as well go WHM or another class.

[QooEr]

ast+sch is already meta, just nobody wants to play ast because its a hassle to play

[Risvertasashi]

ast+sch is already meta, just nobody wants to play ast because its a hassle to play

Slightly more accurately, it's the highest performing healing pair.

Kind of like that "is anyone else worried about AST" thread or whatever it's called: At this point, AST needs QoL love so it's not such a pain to play, and perhaps making card effects more interesting. What it doesn't need is raw buffs to make it even stronger. If SE does the latter... well, we'll be in stormblood 2.0, I suppose.

[ForteNightshade]

Slightly more accurately, it's the highest performing healing pair.

Kind of like that "is anyone else worried about AST" thread or whatever it's called: At this point, AST needs QoL love so it's not such a pain to play, and perhaps making card effects more interesting. What it doesn't need is raw buffs to make it even stronger. If SE does the latter... well, we'll be in stormblood 2.0, I suppose.

To be fair, with the change to FFlogs we'll never go back to how bad things were for selfish jobs since they aren't an outright detriment to your parse. That being said, I really hope they make some changes so that AST/WHM is actually good not just tolerable.

[KDSilver]

I've seen more whm+sch for prog and fast/clean clear but also diurnal ast + whm for speed kill than ast + sch. There are some variety with ast still being underused compare to the other two. They won't do any major changes for now as Yoshida said. Maybe helping ast mana a bit. Despite fun not being the same as before, healers are more or less balanced.

[Lambdafish]

Slightly more accurately, it's the highest performing healing pair

I mean, saying that AST/SCH is the Most Efficient Tactic Available (META) is pretty accurate. It's not the most fun, or the easiest to play, but as you said, it is the highest performing.

[Sebazy]

This, AST is very decent numerically. It's just unpleasant to play.

The announcement that SE won't be announcing job adjustments early anymore has me more worried than ever that they really have no idea what to do about this mess.

[deadman1204]

Can't tell if the OP is a troll. WHM being the inferior healer for the majority of the game was HORRIBLE game design, and Yoshi literally has no excuse.

Also, AST doesn't actually need buffs. People are just whiny cause its not OP anymore.

[Billythepancake]

Can't tell if the OP is a troll. WHM being the inferior healer for the majority of the game was HORRIBLE game design, and Yoshi literally has no excuse.

Also, AST doesn't actually need buffs. People are just whiny cause its not OP anymore.

People's issue with AST aren't the numbers it can pull, their issue is how the class feels to play. I don't care how high the numbers in any class are, it's not worth giving yourself carpal tunnel.