AoE or Area of Effect Rotations for Dungeons What is your Job's AoE for Mobs

[Silverquick]

Thank you Saito for the more in depth look at Bard AoE. I know they have some pretty good stuff whenever I get paired with one as a DPS, but for others here its good to give at least a base look at how to.

BRD,

MCH,
Priority
-Bioblaster (2 targets+)
-Hypercharge (3 targets +)
-Flamethrower (2 targets +) (unless enemies are about to die)
-Spreadshot (3 targets +)

I have a friend who recently got into Machinist and I'm sure they would be interested in knowing more about how it gets put togather.
If possible can you elaborate on an example of how you might do so?

EDIT: Post combined with another .

[Gruntler]

Technically you could even reverse the order of the Big Summons like Phoenix and Bahamut first, then come out of them using your Garuda AoEs, but that would be up to the individual I suppose.

You won't be able to precast so:

[Tri-D]->A2 [Bane, Osmose]->A1 [Dreadwrym, Osmose]->A1[Enkindle, Pain]->Outb[Deathflare, Summon DemiB]->R4[Akh Morn, Pain]->R4[Tri-D, Bane], Outb, Outb, Outb-> R4[Akh Morn, Osmose]->OutB, then A2 once Behe goes away. Use A1 and A2 as weaving when not in trance outside Behe/Phoenix phases. You don't get much value maximizing trance uptime.

[Seabhacgra]

You won't be able to precast so:

[Tri-D]->A2 [Bane, Osmose]->A1 [Dreadwrym, Osmose]->A1[Enkindle, Pain]->Outb[Deathflare, Summon DemiB]->R4[Akh Morn, Pain]->R4[Tri-D, Bane], Outb, Outb, Outb-> R4[Akh Morn, Osmose]->OutB, then A2 once Behe goes away. Use A1 and A2 as weaving when not in trance outside Behe/Phoenix phases. You don't get much value maximizing trance uptime.

Not sure I understand your process on AOE here .. not sure what A1 and A2 are intended for what so yer saying could you break it down for us? I'm assuming Osmose is meaning Energy Siphon and A1 is Egi Assault 1 and A2 is Egi Assault 2? If so you rotation on AOE would look like or flow like this correct?

Tri-Disaster > Egi Assault 2 >Bane > Energy Siphon > Egi Assault 1 > Dreadwyrm Trance > Energy Siphon (why a second time without using the 2 charges?) Egi Assault 1 > Enkindle Egi > Pain Flare > Outburst > Deathflare >Summon DemiBahamut >R4 (not sure what R4 is here) > Akh Morn > Painflare > R4 (again what is R4?) > Tri-Disaster >Bane > Outburst, Outburst, Outburst-> R4 (huh?) > Akh Morn > Energy Siphon >OutBurst > Egi Assault 2 once Bahamut goes away. Use A1 and A2 as weaving when not in Bahamut or Firebird.

Sorry if I butchered it.. just trying to understand your shorthand and abbreviations. could you please clarify?

[Gruntler]

Not sure I understand your process on AOE here .. not sure what A1 and A2 are intended for what so yer saying could you break it down for us? I'm assuming Osmose is meaning Energy Siphon and A1 is Egi Assault 1 and A2 is Egi Assault 2? If so you rotation on AOE would look like or flow like this correct?

Tri-Disaster > Egi Assault 2 >Bane > Energy Siphon > Egi Assault 1 > Dreadwyrm Trance > Energy Siphon (why a second time without using the 2 charges?) Egi Assault 1 > Enkindle Egi > Pain Flare > Outburst > Deathflare >Summon DemiBahamut >R4 (not sure what R4 is here) > Akh Morn > Painflare > R4 (again what is R4?) > Tri-Disaster >Bane > Outburst, Outburst, Outburst-> R4 (huh?) > Akh Morn > Energy Siphon >OutBurst > Egi Assault 2 once Bahamut goes away. Use A1 and A2 as weaving when not in Bahamut or Firebird.

Sorry if I butchered it.. just trying to understand your shorthand and abbreviations. could you please clarify?

R4 is Ruin 4, literally the only ability you have that starts with an R and ends with a 4.

[ReiMakoto]

Thank you Saito for the more in depth look at Bard AoE. I know they have some pretty good stuff whenever I get paired with one as a DPS, but for others here its good to give at least a base look at how to.



I have a friend who recently got into Machinist and I'm sure they would be interested in knowing more about how it gets put togather.
If possible can you elaborate on an example of how you might do so?

For Example:
I've been playing lot of SMN lately as I've really been in the mood for it so I am playing it a lot in Expert Roulettes. Building on the initial AoE rotation I put out for the base Pre Level 60, while I'm sure other people have their own, it goes like this...

Im not quite sure what youre after still? As I said its a priority system, so its press the buttons when you can in the listed order, eg if if hyper and bio are up, use bio then hyper, and dont hyper if it means delaying your bio, i.e. if youve got 5 seconds left on bios recast dont do a hypercharge cos hyper lasts 8s

[Silverquick]

Im not quite sure what youre after still? As I said its a priority system, so its press the buttons when you can in the listed order, eg if if hyper and bio are up, use bio then hyper, and dont hyper if it means delaying your bio, i.e. if youve got 5 seconds left on bios recast dont do a hypercharge cos hyper lasts 8s

Moreso a little bit more detail I guess would be the word.

Since I've never played it I can't offer any on Machinist, and I don't know others who do other than a friend of mine who is getting into it, hence, why I was hoping you might elaborate a bit.

[ArianeEwah]

Moreso a little bit more detail I guess would be the word.

Since I've never played it I can't offer any on Machinist, and I don't know others who do other than a friend of mine who is getting into it, hence, why I was hoping you might elaborate a bit.

MCH
Priority 1 Bioblaster/Drill/Air Anchor:
Bioblaster at 2 targets - unless you don't get the full DoT duration, then it's better to use Drill AND Air Anchor. iirc AA is still used at 1-4 targets, at 5+ it's better to skip it. Bioblaster vs. Drill at 3+ targets: Drill if everything - except your target - is about to die, overwise Bioblaster.

Priority 2 Hypercharge:
At 2 targets: Heat Blast; at 3+ targets: Auto Crossbow
Don't use HC when BB/Drill has less than 8s CD.

Priority 3 Flamethrower:
Use it on 2+ targets when 1. you don't have enough Heat for HC, and 2. BB/Drill has ~10+s CD. You don't need to stand still for its full 10s duration, but it's preferred. Take an AoE hit if it doesn't kill you. This is essentially your "BLM phase".

Priority 3 Spread Shot:
On 3+ targets, whenever 1. Flamethrower is on CD, 2. you don't have enough Heat for HC, and 3. BB/Drill has about ~7s CD.

In between, you should use 1. Ricochet, 2. Gauss Round, 3. Barrel Stabilizer, 4. Wildfire on biggest target und pair it with 5. HC, 6. Automaton Queen/Autoturret on biggest target.

Reassemble on either Drill/Air Anchor (refer to priority 1), Auto Crossbow or Spread Shot.
DO NOT USE IT ON BIOBLASTER! The DoT is uneffected by this ability.