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  1. #21
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    Kenky's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by jameseoakes View Post
    Isn't Zenos basically a clone.port of Sephiroth?
    Not really. While both do have long hair and fill the "Angsty edgelord" role, Zenos isn't hell-bent on worldwide conquest or galactic domination. He just wants to fight the strongest and continue getting stronger. He isn't like other Garleans, who think it's their god-given right to control all of Eorzea, because they're descendants of morons that sacrificed themselves to a god of destruction (as per their creation) and now must punish every other race, due to their own shortcomings.

    No, I'm not still salty they have cool robes, Shut up!
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    Last edited by Kenky; 02-02-2020 at 10:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EtherRose View Post
    Don't see why people say no. FFXIV is a fanbase MMO. We already have Materia and the Gold Saucer from FF7. With the FF7 Remake there IS most likely going to be something else added like a raid, possibly. And even though you say no, you're still going to play it if they release something.
    On the contrary, I have next to zero interest in the remake, and I grew up on early FF titles released in America like VII. My reluctance also isn't just due to how overly saturated the franchise has become with releases related to VII; it also comes from an awareness of time. Nier Automata is already established as the 24-man colab for this expansion, and between now and the next expansion there is no telling which game - if even a FF title would be the most fitting for the next raid. On top of that, there are already the call backs you mentioned such as materia, and the Gold Saucer. Plus, we are also getting the weapons as our next set of trials.

    To me, the question quickly becomes why use more VII when there are other, untapped wells to draw from? I'm still waiting for major callbacks to FFIV, which is another very popular FF title. It would have been the perfect choice for the 24-man back in HW that was so focused on the DRG job, and also bringing DRK into the game. Better late than never, I say. However, collabs in FFXIV seem to always be with other franchises, not other FF titles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kazzel120 View Post
    No for the simple fact 7 was a mediocre RPG. Take off the Rose colored nostalgia glasses just because it was 90% of people first RPG doesn't make it this end-all be all game.

    7 gets way too much praise just because it came out at the right time and had the right advertising.

    Xenogears absolutely destroys 7s story and gameplay. Not to mention countless other Rpgs in the psx era did.
    I am sorry that you are angry because your niche game is not more popular, I really do feel for you as a Breath of Fire fan.
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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by kazzel120 View Post
    No for the simple fact 7 was a mediocre RPG. Take off the Rose colored nostalgia glasses just because it was 90% of people first RPG doesn't make it this end-all be all game.
    Thank you, I thought I was the only one.
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    Id love it if one day we got a mortal Kombat crossover of some kind, that's my wish for crossovers, but an ff 7 of some kind wouldn't be bad.
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    Why the hate for FF7? We already have other titles as fan service in here and the last 24 man is a basic love letter to tactic fans. I say why not, lets have a fun 24 man based on some FF7 stuff. It's not like we already don't have things in the game thats from 7 and other games anyway. What's so wrong with a 24 man too? And no 7 wasn't my first jrgp.. my first would be breath of fire. Just pointing that out there. This reminds me of the old school sonic vs sonic adventure debate. Where people would say if you like sonic adventure you were a -new- fan. I always hated that point, I like Sonic adventure and FF7 and those were not my first games ever.
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    Last edited by Canada_bangs; 02-03-2020 at 12:44 AM.

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    Ye but iirc, we haven't a lot of FFXII/Tactics references in the game. Maybe just the Sky Pirates for lvl 60 24 man raid as far as I remember.

    We'll get the new trials based on FFVII and you want a 24 man raid too ? Guys ? Really ? Rename "Shadowbringers" into "FF7 Legacy" in that case.
    Just to be clear, I have nothing special against FF7, I liked it. But it is fanaticism to want too much. Just to remind:

    Quote Originally Posted by Crushnight View Post
    So you telling me that;
    -Meteor like event of 1.0
    -Ultima weapon
    -King Thordan
    -Scorpion robot
    -City of the Ancients
    -Hades
    -Cloud's bike
    -Advent Cloud's outfit
    -Cloud,Tifa,Aerith minions
    And the new trial series.

    Were not enough fan service for FFVII :P
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    Last edited by Sheli54; 02-03-2020 at 03:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canada_bangs View Post
    Why the hate for FF7?
    Because 7 is seen as "mainstream", so hating on it makes you look edgy and cool.
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  9. #29
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    I don't hate 7, but after all the attention it's gotten over the years, I'm tired of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenky View Post
    No.

    Purely for the reason I'd rather not see Sephiroth or a talking lion telling me what to do,
    .
    Wait you're complaining about talking lions despite that already exists with Hrotgar?
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