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    Eloah's Avatar
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    Toki Tsuchimi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crushnight View Post
    Oh people complained just nowhere near as much because the quality between the two sets was equal, this year's Valentione day sets are not, the female one has an bit of a clipping problem especially with just standing around hands go through it, coupled this with the knowledge that removing genderlock on old gear pieces is being a thing (When is another matter) people are just wanting this bumped up in the queue to remove it faster since there are fewer suits for females.

    Personal note I'd love the tights females get for my male characters yet we got another set of pants, your running out of trouser lengths SE (This one is slightly longer than Butler's while not as baggy as Clouds) :P
    But the outfits are equal, it's clear that both outfits received a lot of time in their design. SE has been better at making both sets feel equal as of late, and not having the Male version be a sad recolor of an already existing piece if gear; looking at you Valentiones's apron and Witch's attire.

    Clipping is sadly something the devs have stated they dont focus on all that much, because they arent going to design an outfit around a pose the player might only be in 2% of the time. Slow down some animations and take a look at some of the other outfits and you'll see a lot more clipping than you'd want to. The only issue is because females tend to have more "long assests" it tends to show up on them more. The best, personal, example I can give is with male lalafell arms the mesh for the underarm and shoulders aren't great and look horrible when the arms move a certain way with certain outfits. As far as I know females dont have that issue.

    As for the pants, yeah I get that; yay more pants, but at least they look nice... That being said the tights look like they would be and interesting jester glam. Time to burn down things until I can wear them right, lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsalmaveth View Post
    I love how people want to try to invalidate opinions with 'you're ENTITLED'... what a crock.

    People want equality in the choices in how they glamour their characters, just like how they dress IRL. And it is no one's business how a person dresses IRL OR in-game. I'm a small petite girl IRL and I DESPISE frilly cute little dresses. I want bespoke vests and slacks for no other reasons than I find them more comfortable and freeing to move in. That's all. It's just my preference. And I find it more aesthetically pleasing to me. I should have that same freedom in-game. I've said so for LITERALLY YEARS. This isn't some new phenom just because I find 'this particular dress' unpalatable. It's the same for others.

    'But Tsal, I haven't seen as many people saying so! That means it just hasn't been as big a deal!'

    Well, that's bully for you? Maybe you weren't on the forums as much? Or weren't talking to EVERYONE? Your sample sizes are limited and skewed.

    Also, NO ONE is trying to 'take away' the nice male glam. Just because they want to open up the CHOICE FOR EVERYONE doesn't mean it suddenly GOES AWAY from the dudes. Good grief. That's the most childish take I've seen yet. Kindergarten was supposed to teach people what sharing entailed, right? That opening things up to everyone doesn't actually take the thing way from others? Check that out, it's a thing. Also, if the B2 glam, the Bunny glam... and every caster robe glam that dudes wear hasn't made people with so-called 'traditional values' (what?) keel over... opening up choices for everyone to wear what they want... removing the gender-locks won't either. Just saying.
    Look everyone is allowed an opinion, and I wont deny you yours. But I feel you are missing the point about why people are upset, that others were upset.

    To start, SE said they were going to ease up on gender restrictions, and were looking to unlock some, that doesnt mean gender locking is disappearing all together. People seem to be in an uproar about the gender lock currently since they saw a bunch of things unlocked during a leak. But a majority of those things were wedding related, and Yoshi-P said in an interview they were unlocking the wedding attire so people could wear whatever they wanted. However, a lot of people were "annoyed" that the leak showed more unlocks for males than females, not remembering that all of the unlocks are available for females currently. Which in some peoples eyes made it look like males were getting more when that wasn't the case.

    In regards to the current Valentione's day outfit. The reason some people are stating that the people who voiced displeasure with the dress are "Entitled" is because of how things played out. People didn't "disapprove" of the dress and then wait to give an honest opinion once they had access to it. It was automatically, "I don't like the dress give me the suit". This makes it seem like those voicing that displeasure expect to get the suit unlocked instead of just not likeing the dress.

    Additionally, this situation might sound similar to the ones long ago, when the males clamoured for the unlocking of female outfits, but it is not. In those instances it wasnt that the males got a unique outfit they didn't enjoy. It was that males didn't get a unique outfit period, they always "shared" their outfit with females. Even with the bunny outfit, which was eventually unlocked, most people requested to at least get just the ears unlocked. Once things started getting fairer the player base calmed down. And the whole Viera/Hrothgar thing aside, SE has maintained fair gender glamours since at least late Heavensward early Stormblood.

    I am not saying that people who play females should go through a stretch like the ones males went through. But, it does help to try and view things with a different perspective. Just because you think something isn't fair doesn't mean it's not. And sadly, this reward is fair. People not liking it is a personal bias and not SE showing favoritism for one gender or another.

    PS. Clipping while an issue, isn't a factor in this topic as much as one might think. Because it's not so much a design flaw, as much as it's SE's lax rules on clipping in general. The male outfit clips too, not as much but it does.
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    Last edited by Eloah; 02-01-2020 at 02:08 AM.
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