Who else is worried about SE and Ast?

[Semirhage]

I'm almost positive that's what's going to happen. It's a pattern by now. As a WHM fan and former main, I'm more brimming with anticipation for another year of AST and SCH mains drifting between

"Our classes are unfun! Give our complexity back!"

to

"Eeeeeeeh, some healer has to bite it and be the low skill floor newb friendly job, and after much deliberation I regrettably nominate the one I don't play. Also don't give them a skill ceiling above knee height, because if you want any flexibility you should just swap to one of the other two"

to

"Now that we're complex again and WHM still isn't, you should nerf WHM or buff us. It's not fair to get similar output for more effort."

to

"It sucks that WHM is the weakest *and* most braindead healer now, but that'll change eventually!"

to

"Oh but meta doesn't matter until SCH's lifetime appointment in it is threatened".

We'll loop back to the top in 6.0.

[ForteNightshade]

I'm almost positive that's what's going to happen. It's a pattern by now. As a WHM fan and former main, I'm more brimming with anticipation for another year of AST and SCH mains drifting between

"Our classes are unfun! Give our complexity back!"

to

"Eeeeeeeh, some healer has to bite it and be the low skill floor newb friendly job, and after much deliberation I regrettably nominate the one I don't play. Also don't give them a skill ceiling above knee height, because if you want any flexibility you should just swap to one of the other two"

to

"Now that we're complex again and WHM still isn't, you should nerf WHM or buff us. It's not fair to get similar output for more effort."

to

"It sucks that WHM is the weakest *and* most braindead healer now, but that'll change eventually!"

to

"Oh but meta doesn't matter until SCH's lifetime appointment in it is threatened".

We'll loop back to the top in 6.0.

To be fair, this happened because the dev team still hasn't realized their design philosophy doesn't work. A burst healer means nothing in a game where burst healing isn't required. Scholar and Astro dominance occurred because they brought more utility. That being said, FFlogs played a pretty significant factor in this as well. Before selfish jobs were basically a direct hindrance to your parse. With the shift to rDPS, that is no longer the case. So White Mage wouldn't be nearly as ostracized.

I will say though, it really isn't fair Astro has to work significantly harder to achieve barely more than White Mage with two buttons.