The 5.2 dungeon looks like it'll be a lore bomb

[Cilia]

While it's presently unclear why we're going back to the seafloor, Bismarck's air bubble and the phantom Amaurot are both lingering effects; getting back down there is not difficult.

It looks like Anamnesis Anyder is a deeper part of Amaurot, one with less of Emet-Selch's glamour overlaying the ruins. Or maybe Ancient technology and architecture really are that durable. (12,000 years on the seafloor tho? Hard time believing it...)

[ChaoticCrimson]

Deep in the Tempest─deeper still than the phantom Amaurot of Emet-Selch's design─lies what remains of Anyder's ancient edifices.

This suggests that this is an actual Amaurotine ruin, and not part of Emet's reconstruction. If that's the case, I wonder what this means about the nature of the Sundering. Could it mean that there are similar ruins on all the shards? If that's the case, perhaps we could discover more on the Source somewhere. An intriguing notion, indeed...

[Ardox]

While it's presently unclear why we're going back to the seafloor, Bismarck's air bubble and the phantom Amaurot are both lingering effects; getting back down there is not difficult.

It looks like Anamnesis Anyder is a deeper part of Amaurot, one with less of Emet-Selch's glamour overlaying the ruins. Or maybe Ancient technology and architecture really are that durable. (12,000 years on the seafloor tho? Hard time believing it...)

Yeah, ruins surviving 12000 years at the bottom of the ocean is the most unrealistic thing this game have ever tried to make us belief

[Enkidoh]

This suggests that this is an actual Amaurotine ruin, and not part of Emet's reconstruction. If that's the case, I wonder what this means about the nature of the Sundering. Could it mean that there are similar ruins on all the shards? If that's the case, perhaps we could discover more on the Source somewhere. An intriguing notion, indeed...

Except Y'shtola already discounted that posibility, that 12000 years worth of successive Calamities would have all but obliterated any remaining traces of pre-Sundering Ancient structures on the Source - after all, even structures from a mere 4000 years ago are almost non-existant on the Source and practically nothing is known to exist from before the Allag anymore so I'm taking Y'shtola's comments as true in this case.

It also explains why Emet prefered to spend his time on the First despite it drowning in Light that was clearly uncomfortable to him (and not just to set the First tetering towards Rejoining during the Eighth Calamity either) - so he could lay his Amaurot-copy over the actual ruins and surround himself in memories of happier times, something he couldn't do on the Source where he most recently was known by mortals as 'Emperor Solus' and there were no remaining remnants of his time left. Rather sad really.

Or maybe Ancient technology and architecture really are that durable. (12,000 years on the seafloor tho? Hard time believing it...)

Well the aetheryte in the Ondo Cups seems to be working fine (which is apparently pre-Sundering tech as it's the exact same design as the aetheryte in the middle of the phantom Amaurot, so unless Emet made one for the ondo.... which I very much doubt, it means that is an original one that has been fully operational for 12000 years under the sea (remember, the ondo stated they settled in the Ondo Cups in the first place because the Ancient ruins felt 'protecting' to them, and an aetheryte very much is a 'beacon' that gives comfort and protection in more ways than just for teleporting to.

And besides, the surprising hardiness of Ancient tech and structures... has a trope too.

[JeanneOrnitier]

Y'shtola's theory of the Calamities wiping the Source's ruins away is quite likely, but it's not confirmed. Neither she nor us have actually gone down there and looked for ourselves.

[YianKutku]

Well the aetheryte in the Ondo Cups seems to be working fine (which is apparently pre-Sundering tech as it's the exact same design as the aetheryte in the middle of the phantom Amaurot, so unless Emet made one for the ondo.... which I very much doubt, it means that is an original one that has been fully operational for 12000 years under the sea (remember, the ondo stated they settled in the Ondo Cups in the first place because the Ancient ruins felt 'protecting' to them, and an aetheryte very much is a 'beacon' that gives comfort and protection in more ways than just for teleporting to.

I've always wondered about the logistics behind us paying the usual Aetheryte teleportation fee whenever we port into Amaurot. Even after death, is Emet-Selch still taxing us?

[Enkidoh]

I've always wondered about the logistics behind us paying the usual Aetheryte teleportation fee whenever we port into Amaurot. Even after death, is Emet-Selch still taxing us?

Heh, I think any lore reason for teleportation costs are just quietly ignored now for the sake of gameplay as the original excuse has long since stopped being relevant - it's the same as the Amaurotine shades in the Bureau of the Architect charging us gil for things like gyshal greens in that it makes no actual lore sense, but is needed to satisfy gameplay.

[Riastrad]

Heh, I think any lore reason for teleportation costs are just quietly ignored now for the sake of gameplay as the original excuse has long since stopped being relevant - it's the same as the Amaurotine shades in the Bureau of the Architect charging us gil for things like gyshal greens in that it makes no actual lore sense, but is needed to satisfy gameplay.

I almost miss using Anima to teleport in 1.0

[Edax]

Yeah, ruins surviving 12000 years at the bottom of the ocean is the most unrealistic thing this game have ever tried to make us belief

Why? In the real world we're still finding statues from the BC era at the bottom of the ocean. This statue is over 2000 years old and crafted with only bronze metallurgy. This game is filled with far stronger fantasy metals and stone.

[ChaoticCrimson]

It'd been so long since I did that part of the story that I'd forgotten Y'shtola already made mention of that possibility. Even so, it'll be interesting to explore the ruins on the First and see what new information about Amaurotine civilization we can find out. I wonder if Elidibus will be our "tour guide" of sorts as we go through the dungeon.