The key to Azys Lla

[Edax]

If the WoL is left helpless, instead of stealing the key and monologuing they should have just killed us then and there. That's my problem with those kind of cutscenes. If we're helpless, we should be dead in the face of the enemy.

[Enkidoh]

If the WoL is left helpless, instead of stealing the key and monologuing they should have just killed us then and there. That's my problem with those kind of cutscenes. If we're helpless, we should be dead in the face of the enemy.

I think we get away unscathed simply because the Ascians are just so arrogant and prideful, that we're 'beneath them', as a mortal we're like insects that we're not even worth the effort finishing off. Of course, pride definetely comes before the fall, and thus that means they hold the Idiot Ball well and truely, and are consistantly having their butts kicked accordingly when said 'insects' give them one hell of a nasty venomous sting (Emet all but evokes this with his little racist rant at the end of Amaurot).

[Edax]

I think we get away unscathed simply because the Ascians are just so arrogant and prideful, that we're 'beneath them', as a mortal we're like insects that we're not even worth the effort finishing off. Of course, pride definetely comes before the fall, and thus that means they hold the Idiot Ball well and truely, and are consistantly having their butts kicked accordingly when said 'insects' give them one hell of a nasty venomous sting (Emet all but evokes this with his little racist rant at the end of Amaurot).

But then, we have Lahabrea mercilessly delivering an extremely long monologue of exposition about Hydalean before trying to murder the Warrior of Light in the MSQ roulette. Utterly no point in explaining any of this if the intent is to kill the Warrior of Light and that does seem to be their intent so I'm not even sure arrogance and pride can be an excuse. Ascians are diametrically opposed to agents of Hydaelyn, there's no reason not to cause the Warrior of Light's mission to fail. I can understand Thordan VII leaving the WoL alone since he's a neutral party, but the Ascians are not neutrally aligned to the Warrior of Light.

[MrThinker]

But then, we have Lahabrea mercilessly delivering an extremely long monologue of exposition about Hydalean before trying to murder the Warrior of Light in the MSQ roulette. Utterly no point in explaining any of this if the intent is to kill the Warrior of Light and that does seem to be their intent so I'm not even sure arrogance and pride can be an excuse.

Isn't that just the Evil Plan Trope in action?

[YianKutku]

But then, we have Lahabrea mercilessly delivering an extremely long monologue of exposition about Hydalean before trying to murder the Warrior of Light in the MSQ roulette. Utterly no point in explaining any of this if the intent is to kill the Warrior of Light and that does seem to be their intent so I'm not even sure arrogance and pride can be an excuse. Ascians are diametrically opposed to agents of Hydaelyn, there's no reason not to cause the Warrior of Light's mission to fail. I can understand Thordan VII leaving the WoL alone since he's a neutral party, but the Ascians are not neutrally aligned to the Warrior of Light.

Honestly I'm not sure how representative the MSQ roulette duties are, because everyone in those monologues incessantly, like holy carp. I can only assume it's due to the writers at the time not being able to really write a convincing "final dungeon" type of dialogue without motive rants.

Like, Livia definitely intends to kill us, and monologues at us about being thirsty for Gaius. Nero sees us as a mere roadblock on the way to Proving Himself Over Cid, and monologues about it endlessly too. And then we have Gaius "How Glib" van Baelsar, who made a good effort to try to kill us multiple times, and has a monologue about it every time.

Lahabrea was either influencing the XIVth Legion rather too much, or he decided that if everyone was going to prepare a speech, he might as well join in.

[Edax]

Honestly I'm not sure how representative the MSQ roulette duties are, because everyone in those monologues incessantly, like holy carp. I can only assume it's due to the writers at the time not being able to really write a convincing "final dungeon" type of dialogue without motive rants.

Like, Livia definitely intends to kill us, and monologues at us about being thirsty for Gaius. Nero sees us as a mere roadblock on the way to Proving Himself Over Cid, and monologues about it endlessly too. And then we have Gaius "How Glib" van Baelsar, who made a good effort to try to kill us multiple times, and has a monologue about it every time.

Lahabrea was either influencing the XIVth Legion rather too much, or he decided that if everyone was going to prepare a speech, he might as well join in.

I can make arguments that Nero and Gaius are trying to justify to themselves what they are doing with their monologues. With the way Gaius desperately tries to justify how Eorzea is his by right, I get the impression he knows he's wrong and he experiences a character arc with every defeat. I'm not even sure he even would kill the Warrior of Light, seeking to platonically conquer the Warrior of Light instead. With Lahabrea, he's so comically evil and diametrically opposed to the Warrior of Light that there's no point for him to utter a word. He doesn't accomplish anything by talking to the Warrior of Light nor does his character develop, if anything his monologue contradicts his own goal at attempted murder. I'm sure Lahabrea had a fun conversation Elidibus afterward.
"Yes, thank you Lahabrea for telling the Warrior of Light our plans right before she crushed you. Your a credit to Amaurot! Now go to Ishgard and manipulate Thordan VII and try not to tell him all our plans too or get defeated by the elderly."