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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    I do however have a question, that I feel might show how arbitrary this topic is for the current event.

    This isn't the first time we've had gender-locked event rewards. And by that I mean the items are seperate, not that they have a different look but are the same item. we've gotten them before in the following events:

    Valentine's Day - the male and female aprons. The male version just being a reskin of the culinarian's level 50 outfit. The female version was a complete origional.

    Little Ladies Day - the Songbird and Senechal attire, and the Lady and Lord's Suikan, as well as their respective clogs. The Songbird and Senechal outfits are again a "dress" and a "suit" on equal footing, and the Suikan's are very similar too, hemp length being different though. The only major difference being the socks on the female clogs.

    Moonfire Faire - various swimsuits and yukatas, all of which are on equal footing with another compared to real world attire. Males even get flat wood clogs and females sockless ones. But at the same time, why can't males get a one-piece swim suit and females a more sporty look with shirts and a crop top?

    All Saint's Wake - the Werewolf outfits are unique with the female outfit being "cuter" and getting a skirt again? Why does a werewolf need a skirt. Why can't males be cute? Also of special mention is the Witch's attire which while one item, is a whole outfit on females compared to males since females have the skirt attached.

    The Garo Event also had unique outfits for some of the female jobs, that arguably were better than the male versions.

    So it's not like any of this is new. And in most cases the same rules applied, you could only receive the one for your gender, but maybe get the other gendered one later, through either the event or the Calamity Salvager. So why the uproar now. In all of the previous instances the gear was fair, something equally nice for males and females, but no one ever really complained, at least not to this much of a degree.

    Honestly, I really do think it's a case of the female outfit being really disliked among the people who play female characters. And because they dislike it people are clamoring for the unlock, probably because the male version is similarly themed but less busy. I'm not saying gender-locking is good, or that things shouldn't be unlocked, but I dont think this outfit is the proper platform to hard press the issue on. I think people just don't like the female version and don't wanna just say that and move on. Honestly, how often do you wear the other event specific items, that usually have specific themes that people might not wanna wear on a daily basis.

    Not every piece of gear will be for everyone, bit that doesnt mean the devs are being unfair.
    This isn't the first time people have complained about genderlocks on event gear. I was definitely unhappy about the Endless Summer set being shorts for boys and briefs for girls again, and I'm pretty sure there was a discussion about it. I didn't like the werewolf skirt either, or the Spriggan pants turning into short-shorts, and I'm sure I've repeated my dislike for pants-becoming-miniskirts in general far too many times by now.

    I feel like the Songbird and Suikan outfits really are good counterparts - the same outfit adapted to suit each gender.

    I don't mind the recycled CUL gear really - it's still cute, and I got the pants I needed for my alt's White Rabbit costume out of it.

    Also I know people love to complain about the witch outfit not giving pants for the male version, but how hard is it to put on one of the existing pairs of plain pants that would have inevitably been recycled for the model anyway? People would probably complain about that instead.



    I think people just don't like the female version and don't wanna just say that and move on.
    I think we are saying that. We're not avoiding it.



    Honestly, how often do you wear the other event specific items, that usually have specific themes that people might not wanna wear on a daily basis.
    That's ultimately part of the issue here. Female characters get a "cute Valentine's dress" with hearts and frills. Males get a waistcoat that is going to be useful throughout the year. We don't have anything in that style currently - or not broadly available, at least.
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    Last edited by Iscah; 01-28-2020 at 07:23 AM.