Honestly stuff like that is great in MMOs, but then it leads to people only looking towards the most optimized builds and anyone that tries something different is looked down upon. I can't speak for those 3 MMOs, but a lot of people complain about the removal of talents in WoW but what was the point when Fire Mage was unplayable in Molten Core? Or you had to re-spec (costs gold after the 1st re-spec btw) as Warrior based on what you were doing. No one wants 2 handed Arms DPS Warrior in raids when fury dual-wielding is seen as the way to go. Maybe its great initially when people are learning and experimenting, but the choice becomes an illusion as time progresses. Would like to see more games with useful talents and fun ones being still playable but I lost a lot of hope when I could no longer go full money generating Katarina in LoL.