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  1. #41
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    Right, but isn't it also 'ridiculous and unreasonable' to barge into a thread requesting an ultimately harmless, client side only option and say 'no, you HAVE to perceive me as I desire, and if you dislike it, the onus is on you to leave the duty and not play the game?

    Again, I personally wouldn't use the option outside of maybe once or twice to see how it looks, but going so far as to even regard an optional change to the system- the mere thought that you may be unable to impose your personal expression on every given other player you meet- as something which cannot possibly be tolerated is incredibly closed-minded.
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  2. #42
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    A'shtola Rhul
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurida View Post
    Right, hence the thread asking for a solution to the problem that we are currently in. A solution that, again, impacts you precisely not at all outside of specious slippery slope arguments about racism/sexism/what have you.
    why have glamour option if people can just toggle it off. i sometime spend hours just to find the the right combination for my look. and i'm not only doing it because its character that i am looking at for hours while playing its also because i want to other players to see how my character looks like. I know I know its optional what hes asking but still feels little redundant if people can just turn it off.
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    The seas continue to rise while the lesser moon continues to fall, and ilm by ilm, the world becomes ever more unlike itself, without the illumination of knowledge, we but vainly flail as specters in the dark.

  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurida View Post
    Right, but isn't it also 'ridiculous and unreasonable' to barge into a thread requesting an ultimately harmless, client side only option and say 'no, you HAVE to perceive me as I desire, and if you dislike it, the onus is on you to leave the duty and not play the game?
    It's unreasonable and ridiculous to post in an open forum and not expect some kind of feedback, be it positive or negative. And it's unreasonable to tell the dev team to spend their time disabling the stuff their art team spent time and money creating.
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  4. #44
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    Pepsi Plunge
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    There may be a reason why someone dresses like they do: Maybe they are roleplaying. Maybe they are cosplaying. Maybe it represents their attitude and character. Maybe they just want to show off some hard earned glamour they are proud of. Whatever their reasons, you may not like it and you don't need to look at them, but when you do you shouldn't see someone or something else, because it wouldn't be what they want you to see.

    If my characters could speak, they would probably say something like: "If you look at me, please notice me as how I am and not as how you want me to be." but I guess that would be too cheesy
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    Last edited by Pepsi_Plunge; 01-21-2020 at 11:40 PM.

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    Thanks for understanding the post.
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    Yes, that is what I was driving at.
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  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurida View Post
    Right, but isn't it also 'ridiculous and unreasonable' to barge into a thread requesting an ultimately harmless, client side only option and say 'no, you HAVE to perceive me as I desire, and if you dislike it, the onus is on you to leave the duty and not play the game?
    Only if you also think it would be "ridiculous and unreasonable" for someone to object if a photo was taken of them, then edited to show them wearing something that they would not wear and do not want to be pictured wearing.

    It hasn't actively harmed them but it has taken their image and altered it.

    And again, no doubt it varies with personal perception but a photo of you can still be thought of as "you". To do something to a photograph of a person is an extension of doing it to them, especially if other people then see it and it's still associated with that person's identity.

    You haven't forced the actual person to change their appearance, but you've changed it nevertheless.
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    Last edited by Iscah; 01-22-2020 at 12:00 AM.

  8. #48
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    As I mentioned in my original post it would be an option similar to turning on and off the Battle effects in the settings menu. Therefore it would only effect what I see on my screen, and not anyone else. Nor would it disabled your glamoured gear.
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeedSix View Post
    As I mentioned in my original post it would be an option similar to turning on and off the Battle effects in the settings menu. Therefore it would only effect what I see on my screen, and not anyone else. Nor would it disabled your glamoured gear.
    1. You need to use the "reply with quote" option or nobody will know which post you are replying to.

    2. If this is aimed at me, I already said it's not about whether it's only happening on your screen. I don't want it happening to my character, whichever screen they appear on.

    And no, I am not arguing this because I want to dress as a bikini tank. Quite the opposite.
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    X'kijin Lyzej-lyrre
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    Sounds like a waste of dev time when we have things like the shisui set, among other things.
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