ADD GLAMOUR EFFECTS SETTINGS

[SeedSix]

Just because we don't see it doesn't mean we are not affected. Just knowing that a system would be in place that will change the appears of your character is uncomfortable. it would feel that this option is just to censorship how your character look like from other point of view.

This has got to be a joke. Censorship? Please, stop it.

[SeedSix]

Where can one find mods? I'm used to using Curse/Twitch for other games but haven't found a good clearinghouse for FF.

Thank you!



As for the OP's topic; it's absolutely legitimate to want something that will display unglamoured or AF sets rather than glamour on your client. Seeing some of the glamours out there, there are times when I would like to not see them. That being said, the game is heavily designed around the anime aesthetic where characters often go into intense combat in less-than protective gear. The best we can do is accept the aesthetic of the game and respect other player's choice to glamour how they want. Creating an option like you're requesting would take developer resources, and with the team's significant support of glamour it's unlikely to happen.

Appreciate your neutral response.

[Lambdafish]

snip.

I do apologise for the backlash you have been recieving, there seems to be a few people who are extremely sensitive, throwing around words like censorship, oppression, and respect like you need to bow down at their feet and tell them they look pretty. What you have asked for is harmless, and (for everyone who disagrees) I could see it as a way to lift glamour restrictions. The devs argument has always been immersion as to why glamour is restricted, but with this systme it would allow those who want an immersive experience to play that way, and for those who want to really experiment with glamour to go ham.

FFXIV is a game for all kinds of players, please be accomodating of those players even if you don't agree with them. This request is harmless.

And neither is Square-Enix, btw.

The SE dev team actually doesn't care about model swaps, and they have long held that view. The unwritten rule is "don't be a dick, don't exploit, and we will turn a blind eye". Nobody in the history of the game has been banned for using a model swap.

[Pepsi_Plunge]

The SE dev team actually doesn't care about model swaps, and they have long held that view. The unwritten rule is "don't be a dick, don't exploit, and we will turn a blind eye". Nobody in the history of the game has been banned for using a model swap.

That's not true. At all.
They may tolerate parsers under a "don't ask, don't tell" policy but they were always hard against those model-swaps. Obviously, because: 1) They don't want any nude mods and 2) losing money with glamour and mount-skins. Why should I buy the angels and devils costume or the fatter cat mount at the mogry station, if I could just install a mod, adding those skins to my game for free? Those are the two big reasons why Square Enix hasn't and won't turn a blind eye against modding. They are actually very active against it and have send cease and desist letter in the past (I know about at least 11, because there was a big article about it in a magazine about those strikes against the modding scene and players showing those mods on streams).

[Lambdafish]

That's not true. At all.
They may tolerate parsers under a "don't ask, don't tell" policy but they were always hard against those model-swaps. Obviously, because: 1) They don't want any nude mods and 2) losing money with glamour and mount-skins. Why should I buy the angels and devils costume or the fatter cat mount at the mogry station, if I could just install a mod, adding those skins to my game for free? Those are the two big reasons why Square Enix hasn't and won't turn a blind eye against modding. They are actually very active against it and have send cease and desist letter in the past (I know about at least 11, because there was a big article about it in a magazine about those strikes against the modding scene and players showing those mods on streams).

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1408111

Reshade has been officially ok'ed, and as for other client-side mods, there is zero risk of use. SE has literally never banned players for using client-side appearance mods (server-side mods are a different story).

[Pepsi_Plunge]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1408111

Reshade has been officially ok'ed, and as for other client-side mods, there is zero risk of use. SE has literally never banned players for using client-side appearance mods (server-side mods are a different story).

That's something totally different. ENB is a shaders/lighting-tool for graphical effects. Of course SE doesn't care about it.
Swapping or changing skins and models, on the other hand, is quite another affaire, especially with nudes or chargeable extensions. I'm pretty sure they even had people banned for showing off a modded haircut (not really sure if it was true, but I remember reading about it)

SE has literally never banned players for using client-side appearance mods

Because there is usually no way they can know about it as long as they aren't showing them off in streams, videos or in pictures on the internet. But if they do and someone notice it, SE usually take actions. Same is true for the sites publicing those mods. There has indeed been bans and cease and desist letters in the past, like I wrote in my previous posting.

[Rongway]

there seems to be a few people who are extremely sensitive, throwing around words like censorship

Censorship's exactly what this is about. OP and supporters find other people's glamours objectionable and want an option to suppress them.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/censor

censor verb
censored; censoring\ ˈsen(t)-​sə-​riŋ, ˈsen(t)s-​riŋ \

Definition of censor (Entry 2 of 2)

transitive verb
: to examine in order to suppress (see suppress sense 2) or delete anything considered objectionable (censor the news)
also : to suppress or delete as objectionable (censor out indecent passages)

[Lambdafish]

Censorship's exactly what this is about. OP and supporters find other people's glamours objectionable and want an option to suppress them.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/censor

If you are going to use definitions as an argument, you might want to look up the definition of suppress (given its importance in the definition of censorship).

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/suppress

suppressed; suppressing; suppresses
Definition of suppress
transitive verb

1: to put down by authority or force
2: to keep from public knowledge: such as
a: to keep secret
b: to stop or prohibit the publication or revelation of
3a: to exclude from consciousness
b: to keep from giving vent to
5a: to restrain from a usual course or action
b: to inhibit the growth or development of
6: to inhibit the genetic expression of

OP is doing none of this. They aren't restricting peoples glamours, they aren't forcing anything upon anybody. They are making a CLIENT SIDE CHANGE. This affects NOBODY. Nobody is censored, nobody is suppressed, the change affects only the person choosing to use the option. If you choose to be offended or sensitive about this then that is your fault, not the OPs, they are in the right to want this change, and their approach is harmless. Ive seen threads complaining about certain glamour pieces, and their attitude has been oppressive and censoring, but this thread isn't that.

key words: CLIENT SIDE

[Axxion]

safe to say we have another troll on the forums?

[SeedSix]

I do apologise for the backlash you have been recieving, there seems to be a few people who are extremely sensitive, throwing around words like censorship, oppression, and respect like you need to bow down at their feet and tell them they look pretty. What you have asked for is harmless, and (for everyone who disagrees) I could see it as a way to lift glamour restrictions. The devs argument has always been immersion as to why glamour is restricted, but with this systme it would allow those who want an immersive experience to play that way, and for those who want to really experiment with glamour to go ham.

FFXIV is a game for all kinds of players, please be accomodating of those players even if you don't agree with them. This request is harmless.



The SE dev team actually doesn't care about model swaps, and they have long held that view. The unwritten rule is "don't be a dick, don't exploit, and we will turn a blind eye". Nobody in the history of the game has been banned for using a model swap.

Thanks for your response. Perhaps I should have chosen a more careful selection of words. Definitely not trying to censor or dictate how someone glamours their character. Just offering a suggestion to allow us to customize the gaming experience further from the end users perspective. I like your use of the word "immersion". I honestly did not expect all of these negative responses.