BLU QoL and future additions you would like

[ShadowNyx3]

The thing is, that's not any different than any other job then. Also, you shouldn't be using diamondback for a lack of health but using it to prevent or mitigate massive damage that might put you in a disadvantageous situation with your health and strategizing when to use them given the skill of your party, upcoming attacks, and positioning where you are. How is that any different from what you do with BLU with what you said?

I don't think that's what he meant. The lack of health is referring to Blue Mages not having any extra Vitality like an actual tank would, thus making Diamondback key in a lot of areas to compensate for things that wouldn't phase a normal tank. That actually is what makes BLU in FFXIV different than the other jobs.


Though your whole post here rings very hollow coming from someone who hasn't even leveled Blue Mage past level 50. Wanting to limit Blue Mage's identity to one thing is the complete counter stance to what the devs chose to do with this latest update, which is a valid opinion for someone who just doesn't like what Blue Mage is currently, but not one anyone here should take seriously when that person hasn't even given the new update a chance.

[Dreggit]

BLU tanking isn't really fun. A lot of the high end raid content is more or less diamondback perfectly or die to mechanic + autoattack. Maybe if the tank mimic emulated the health bonus that tanks actually get their survivability would be more consistent

[Maero]

The one thing that annoys me is in terms of the spells. You must click and activate which spells to use and look through the spell book or whatever and slot abilities from there.
More insta cast spells would be nice also.

[KageTokage]

BLU tanking isn't really fun. A lot of the high end raid content is more or less diamondback perfectly or die to mechanic + autoattack. Maybe if the tank mimic emulated the health bonus that tanks actually get their survivability would be more consistent

This is honestly my biggest gripe about trying to do BLU-only instances.

You already do pathetic amounts of damage as a BLU tank due to Mighty Guard's damage reduction, and your dependence on Diamondback means you also spend a significant amount of time spamming Blood Drain just to ensure you have enough MP for every tank buster that comes up, then you lose uptime from spending more time in Diamondback then everyone else does.

Even just something like a 20% HP boost on tank mimicry would definitely make staying alive prior to casted tank busters a lot more comfortable because right now just an auto + instant tank buster like Flarethrower or Divine Spear can potentially be lethal. Having some non-Diamondback cooldowns to depend on would also make using DPS abilities a more realistic prospect.

[LauraAdalena]

I don't think that's what he meant. The lack of health is referring to Blue Mages not having any extra Vitality like an actual tank would, thus making Diamondback key in a lot of areas to compensate for things that wouldn't phase a normal tank. That actually is what makes BLU in FFXIV different than the other jobs.


Though your whole post here rings very hollow coming from someone who hasn't even leveled Blue Mage past level 50. Wanting to limit Blue Mage's identity to one thing is the complete counter stance to what the devs chose to do with this latest update, which is a valid opinion for someone who just doesn't like what Blue Mage is currently, but not one anyone here should take seriously when that person hasn't even given the new update a chance.

I'd argue that's no different than a tank but whatever it'd be pointless to argue two different perspectives on the same point when it's really just a point of view thing/opinion thing and nothing more. I can't tell you your opinion is wrong and you can't tell me as such and I have a feeling we both have unwavering opinions on this topic.

Yeah I haven't. But can I still form an opinion after helping friends and playing it in previous patches? I feel like I can given I have a baseline understanding of the class, have guides that show and tell every spell, and other things inside it. Now, I really must re-itterate that I've seen enough of the current Blue Mage and helped enough friends out with it that I feel like I get an understanding of the new Blue Mage and can safely say I'd get the abilities, get to 60, and stop anyway. So helping friends do the same is practically the same experience, imo. The content doesn't offer enough of a singular focused identity that they don't have enough content for me to do giving me an idea of what I'd do at 60. I don't want to redo the savages or coils as BLU. I don't particularly find the whole farming these duties as BLU enticing for seals when I have most of the items, and i don't really have enough friends to do BLU with that'd want to do that stuff either anyway to make it fun. I'd be hopping into a PF and doing it with strangers, which I really don't enjoy because I like the banter between my friends and I and the fun we have when we're all in it together.

My problem is that people have this idea that just because the devs chose to do with something, it doesn't mean I have to like it or can't disagree or give other ideas with it. This thread and how the OP talks about it shows my point there. It bothers me to see people say that people can't disagree or even suggest different ideas just because "it's how the devs intended it."

[LauraAdalena]

It is designed to be what BLU always has been...a goofy job that can do everything and can break certain things while being near useless in others. See FF5, FF10, and FF10-2 for examples of this.

I've played all of these, and one much more recently. The only thing that FF5 has is that it makes certain bosses a cakewalk and immediately kills a few enemies. Other than that it's mostly a support or hybrid DPS/Healer. FF10 Khimari's Overdrive is considered one of the weakest because of how Overdrives work until you can get his coming up every single fight, then he's one of the best supports and doesn't get his game breaking stuff until endgame but by then if you have Wakka's Hit Reels down those break the game so much better. FF10-2 I haven't played in a while but I remember that being one of the more underwhelming uses of BLU. The ones that I remember actually being great were Quistis from 8, Enemy Action materia from 7, and Quina from 9. I'd need to replay 7 but I remember all of these having some skills they could learn that made them top-tier in the game.

[Berteaux_Braumegain]

Enemy Skill Materia shattered the game difficulty over your knee, yes.

[Venetoi]

Aethereal Mimicry QoL

1.use Aethereal Mimicry without other players, you used the spell, a pops up show which role to mimic, done, only usable outside an instance of course.
2.New Job Icons to reflect what role that person has mimic
3.New BLU/ROLE slots for PF, so BLU can join PF right away as BLU/ROLE instead of joining as either Tank or Healer then switch to BLU later and has to run around looking for players to lick.

[Lambdafish]

1.use Aethereal Mimicry without other players, you used the spell, a pops up show which role to mimic, done, only usable outside an instance of course.
2.New Job Icons to reflect what role that person has mimic
3.New BLU/ROLE slots for PF, so BLU can join PF right away as BLU/ROLE instead of joining as either Tank or Healer then switch to BLU later and has to run around looking for players to lick.

I'd love to see all of this. On top of that I'd also love to see an option to mark PFs as BLU content for visibility. Right now the only way to distinguish a BLU party from say a WT party is the description.

[Flay_wind]

Also related to the BLU mimicry. When you have tank or healer mimicry the game needs to recognize you as such for the boss' mechanics that target a specific role. For example there are mechanics that specifically target a healer, when you do it as a group of BLUs the targets chosen are random.
I've mentioned this before, but ideally color of your BLU icon in the PF could change to the color of the role you mimic. With red as DPS by default.