Fisher needs more love? I think so

[Maeka]

I remember in ARR, there were different animations for casting your line. There was one where your character swings the pole around in circles to get the line flying around before finally throwing it out in the water, and then slowly sways the rod back and forth while constantly reeling (river-type spinner lures). I think the latter is still used for Dunefishing, but how often do you seriously go Dunefishing?

Whatever happened to that? It was a cool animation but it was only used for one or two baits which are now defunct because we have a one size fits all bait now that likely doesn't even use that animation.

Also, most fish just seem useless. There's what again, like 20-30 fish per 10 levels (per expansion)? At least? But yet people only care about <5 of those for specific foods? Everything else is merely just used in getting your FSH up to max level. It'd be nice if more fish desynthed into more things that you actually care about (instead of just pigment and water crystals with the occasional thing like Dark Matter from those crabs), for example.

Though on the flipside, actual fishing itself... just seems like they tried to throw noodles at the wall to see what sticks because they were trying to make it more "immersive" and "engaging" when they kinda missed the point of what a good fishing system is really supposed to be.

SOME activities in the game are OK to be less engaging. Some people like to chatter away on their FCs or LSs while fishing, some people like to alt-tab and talk on discord or what not and only tab back when they hear they got a hit on their line. Nothing wrong with that, but SE seems to go "oh, we need more buttons for people to push!"

I would argue otherwise, we need LESS buttons. It should just be "hit a button and wait" because it's one of the only activities you can do in-game while chattering away.

[ShadowNyx3]

Though on the flipside, actual fishing itself... just seems like they tried to throw noodles at the wall to see what sticks because they were trying to make it more "immersive" and "engaging" when they kinda missed the point of what a good fishing system is really supposed to be.

SOME activities in the game are OK to be less engaging. Some people like to chatter away on their FCs or LSs while fishing, some people like to alt-tab and talk on discord or what not and only tab back when they hear they got a hit on their line. Nothing wrong with that, but SE seems to go "oh, we need more buttons for people to push!"

I would argue otherwise, we need LESS buttons. It should just be "hit a button and wait" because it's one of the only activities you can do in-game while chattering away.

I fail to see what you're actually arguing for here. Yes, big fishing and legendary fishing have a lot of depth involved with skill usage, hook-time tracking, and more, but that's the point and its why the people who get into big and legendary fishing love it.

If you just want to afk and press reel every time you hear a bite, there's nothing stopping you from doing that, and you'll probably be able to catch 90% of the "useful" fish that way.


More to the OP's point though, while I love fishing in this game dearly, I would like to see improvements made in a few areas to add some usefulness and open up the class to a wider audience to allow more people to potentially get hooked on the more in-depth aspects of it.

With the changes to desynthesis, I would love to see a return to ARR days of hiding unique items on various fish. Coupled with putting more and more fish on display in housing fish tanks, this would help broaden the market on fish people would have demand for.

Additionally, spearfishing could definitely use an overhaul. One of Stormblood's biggest disappointments for me was that spearfishing was never given the same big/legendary treatment that normal reel fishing has had, and I would like to see that added as a fishing enthusiast. But beyond that, spearfishing hasn't been useful for anything since Snailfish were released for crafting and gathering gear upgrades in 4.1. Spearfishing has the potential to be a more fast-paced fishing experience, which might offer an entirely new niche for people to enjoy alongside being able to catch a wider variety fish that help them in other areas of the game.

[Canadane]

I remember in ARR, there were different animations for casting your line. There was one where your character swings the pole around in circles to get the line flying around before finally throwing it out in the water, and then slowly sways the rod back and forth while constantly reeling (river-type spinner lures). I think the latter is still used for Dunefishing, but how often do you seriously go Dunefishing?

Whatever happened to that? It was a cool animation but it was only used for one or two baits which are now defunct because we have a one size fits all bait now that likely doesn't even use that animation.

If you’re after surviving fish, you’ll still want specific bait. All those animations still exist. It’s based on the bait or lure type you use, not where you are.

[Extropi]

Agree, many similar fish can sensibly be substituted in recipes. They have too many useless fish. Also, in general, there is not enough in-game clues.

[Sated]

I would argue otherwise, we need LESS buttons. It should just be "hit a button and wait" because it's one of the only activities you can do in-game while chattering away.

That sounds terrible to me. The abilities are a significant part what make catching legendary fish interesting and rewarding.

I think the ideal solution is if someone doesn't enjoy fishing maybe they should find something they do enjoy doing, like utilizing the new auto-gathering and just selling things in bulk, and use the gil they earn from that to buy the fish they don't want to be catching.

[Shadygrove]

In the beginning of 2.0 Yoshi said he didn't want fishing to be economically important. But you can still make a decent living on ARR fish.

Also there is an aethersand spearfishing fish.

[KageTokage]

Fishing has been a viable GP-free source of aethersands since SB...which is why Il Mheg's lake is consistently swamped with bots on every single server. It's the preferred option for those who don't want to bother using cordials to increase the number of attempts they get during each window for the ephemeral nodes as you need considerably more luck to get any aethersands without spending GP from mining/botany then you would spearfishing.

That aside, I do think we deserve some better rewards from big fishing then simple titles considering how rough it can be. A special mount like a flying shark would be nice.

[Sated]

That aside, I do think we deserve some better rewards from big fishing then simple titles considering how rough it can be. A special mount like a flying shark would be nice.

I'd love a fishing mount but I'm also wary of attracting people who hate fishing into something like big fishing. If it can be sold it should be fine, though it would feel less special.

I'd like to see valuable/interesting desynth options from rarer fish. Something fishers can either desynth themselves or sell it on the MB like gacha.
Like the pareo/bikini/lei fish. More like that.

[Chris131289]

I just want a bait inventory, that would be enough to really get me back into fishing other than just grinding up the levels whenever higher ones are ready

[Lambdafish]

I just want a bait inventory, that would be enough to really get me back into fishing other than just grinding up the levels whenever higher ones are ready

AFAIK The dev team is aware of the demand. I think Yoshi P mentioned it when he was visiting a world.

Edit: Found it

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ited_masamune/

Q. I want a tackle box?
A. I understand the demand...

Thats as much as we are getting at the moment