Concerning recent developments of third party addons, and SE's DADT stance

[Risvertasashi]

Due to that, I fully expect the player using this to be banned, as is their current MO. What I'm concerned about is the fix Square will attempt. Anyone who raids with a DPS parsing utility should also be concerned. It's removal would hurt FFXIV raiding harder then Gordias did, I'd expect, because having those metrics to go off of is a big part of the engagement for FFXIV's raiding scene.

This is also my worry: that this addon or addons like it that might come after make might SE feel compelled to do something instead of the usual practice of turning a blind eye. And that something might break the more mundane, but important to raiding addons.

Maybe I'm worrying too much.

[Lambdafish]

This is also my worry: that this addon or addons like it that might come after make might SE feel compelled to do something instead of the usual practice of turning a blind eye. And that something might break the more mundane, but important to raiding addons.

Maybe I'm worrying too much.

The one thing I will say that will put your mind slightly at ease: Yoshi P does see both sides of the argument. He is an MMO player, and he sees the use of addons in other games, and recognises their importance to the raid scene. They cannot officially endorse them however because they do not want to divide the playerbase or create a situation where "parsers are mandatory because the devs said so". Thats why we currently have a "don't be a dick and you wont be banned" rule.

Notably, Arthus was banned for harrassment, not use of third party tools, that is a very notable use of "you will be banned if you use a parser to be a dick", but like you said about pandoras box, what are the implications of that? I would love to see an official statement from Yoshi P regarding the devs opinion of addons, but I doubt that would happen, I'm not sure what he would even say.

[linay]

I would love to see an official statement from Yoshi P regarding the devs opinion of addons, but I doubt that would happen, I'm not sure what he would even say.

I doubt that would happen because there is no reason for it. If the devs' opinion has any meaning in terms of enforcement, then it would align with the official rules. If it doesn't, then it doesn't matter what they think.