Can We please have Hilda/Yugiri & Yotsuyu's Hairstyles?

[HeyMcFly]

+1
... Sadly we're not going to get them anytime soon, because "reasons"

Well, we'll probably only see male related things because 'it's gender neutral' to them. oh. ok SE.

[HeyMcFly]

I'd like to redirect this topic back towards NPC exclusive hairstyles you'd like to have on your character, not whether viera have this or that,

[reivaxe]

I'm not arguing people weren't overly optimistic, they absolutely were, I'm just saying it wasn't immediately obvious Viera would be stuck with 8 hairstyles for 6 months. It even says when you Fantasia or create a new Viera or Hrothgar "some hairstyles may be unavailable", when it's in fact ALL hairstyles. Imagine if they made a mount some races couldn't use because they didn't have time/resources to make a riding animation?

I'm saying that in hide sight it was completely obvious.
Heck, Yoshi even said that they would get new hairs but at a slower rate/ later than the other races ... the first new hair style we got since the release of SHB was from the most recent big patch. So until now you had no reason to expect anything anytime soon seeing as they flat out said you wont get hair as fast as reg races ... unless you trick yourself into thinking they weren't telling the truth about that and "surely we would see new hair before the release of a new hair style for the other races".

Also, your mount example makes no sense so IDK how to take that. Like, if they made a race with 4 legs or something completely different to what we got RN mounts would be 1 of many things they would have to think hard about. But seeing how every race in this game is either a modified Human, tot or Roe there's no problem in making things work on a mount.

If they're so strapped for resources I'd like to see them add the hairstyles requested in this thread ONLY to the races they originally appeared on. So Elezen get Ysayle's and Hilda's hair, Au Ra get Yugiri's hair, Midlanders get Yotsuyu's, Hilda's and Lyse's hair. Maybe even throw in Nanamo's hair for Lala's. Everyone else can be patient or buy a Fantasia if you really want access to these hairstyles. We couldn't possibly expect them to rig all these hairs for ALL races right? Except we could, and should ask for exactly that and not throw a few races under the bus because "well you got what you bargained for if you don't like it just Fantasia".

Uhh, these hair styles weren't made to work for every race. Hilda's, for example, wouldn't work on cats for the same reason the Form-n-Function hair wouldn't work on Viera. So I'd be fine with them adding that as a race hair for Humans and Elezen.
But then again I much more prefer they just keep making new HQ hairs over re using years old ones from NPCs. *Shrugs

[Skolopendrokot]

I would love to see more NPC's hairstyles avaiable. You can have Thancred's, Urianger's, Haurchefant's and even Aymeric's hair, so I really do not see a reason why they couldn't add more. I understand the need of making important NPCs unique, but I do not think that many people would create copies of them. They just want that nice and exclusive hairstyle for their characters. And I am among them. The game lacks of nice hairstyles - there are a lot of them, but most of them are just decent.

[reivaxe]

I don't see how people expecting the new race they were gonna buy a fantasia for to have access to the same hairstyles all of the other previous races have shared puts anyone on a high horse as it is an understanding based in precedents.

I was referring to the strange rivalry with Hrothgar. Back then the forums were very open about this and it still can be when the topic comes up. Hrothgar were looked at as a lazy incomplete race ... the red headed step child if you will. "I'm sure Viera will get most of the hairstyles, Hrothgar don't even get options! What a waste to not get Male Viera over them ..." Then the races come out and "The benchmark ... was it? We're also fucked, doom to have only 8 hair styles?"
*Shocked Pikachu Face followed by blaming the connection to Hrothgar for all their problems by some

Since then it comes up with any new big things.
As it stands, all you can do is chill and wait. Hope for the best and all that. No point in really getting worked up about it, the soonest anyone could logically hope for news on the hair and mane and hrothgar face front would be moving froward from NOW seeing as we officially have our first reg hair style released and we were told they would come at a slower pace/ later than the reg hair.

Back to the topic, I again kinda find it funny that people are so hung up on these old NPC hairs when they could just hope for better designed new hairs seeing how much better the devs have gotten at cracking the newer hairs out. But then again I know the types of styles I want will never be added so ehh, lets all dream.

[HeyMcFly]

I would love to see more NPC's hairstyles avaiable. You can have Thancred's, Urianger's, Haurchefant's and even Aymeric's hair, so I really do not see a reason why they couldn't add more. I understand the need of making important NPCs unique, but I do not think that many people would create copies of them. They just want that nice and exclusive hairstyle for their characters. And I am among them. The game lacks of nice hairstyles - there are a lot of them, but most of them are just decent.

It's odd the only NPC female hair we have is Y'sthola's hairstyle. We do have some added modern aesthetics that seem to be aimed more towards female characters but the most NPC exclusive hairs we do have access to are male related- I would just like a nice balance to that by SE adding accessible versions of Lyse/ Yugiri/ Hilda hair etc.
Lyse's ponytail on anyone would be beautiful. We don't have great access to ponytails or updo's but having a Ponytail such as Lyse or Hilda's OR both would certainly be more than a positive. It would mean SE is really listening.

[Jojoya]

SE adds NPC hairstyles as player character options. Players then rage about clipping issues once they're implemented.

Those unique hairstyles are part of the NPC's unique model, which is why they don't clip on the NPC, as opposed to being an interchangeable part like player character hairstyles. Even if SE were to create copies of those hairstyles that could be used on player characters, and add the exact same clothing as glamour options for player characters as well so we could use them as a set, we'd still end up with severe clipping issues that players would be complaining about.

Are you really going to be happy if those hairstyles are always clipping? When they're turned into just a skull cap because you want to display your equipped head item and it's design isn't compatible with the hairstyle?

[HeyMcFly]

SE adds NPC hairstyles as player character options. Players then rage about clipping issues once they're implemented.

Those unique hairstyles are part of the NPC's unique model, which is why they don't clip on the NPC, as opposed to being an interchangeable part like player character hairstyles. Even if SE were to create copies of those hairstyles that could be used on player characters, and add the exact same clothing as glamour options for player characters as well so we could use them as a set, we'd still end up with severe clipping issues that players would be complaining about.

Are you really going to be happy if those hairstyles are always clipping? When they're turned into just a skull cap because you want to display your equipped head item and it's design isn't compatible with the hairstyle?

I honestly don't mind clipping, I can always make a glamour around a hairstyle then I'm happy. I know plenty of people who do then complain when they don't have long hair that looks good yet hate clipping- it's annoying. There are some NPC hairs we have & others we do not- having access to all styles would atleast give us a choice- it'd be better than another spikey mullet altleast

[SturmChurro]

I honestly don't mind clipping, I can always make a glamour around a hairstyle then I'm happy. I know plenty of people who do then complain when they don't have long hair that looks good yet hate clipping- it's annoying. There are some NPC hairs we have & others we do not- having access to all styles would atleast give us a choice- it'd be better than another spikey mullet altleast

Funnily enough the mullets clip with a lot of collared tops or other light headgear.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Anything past shoulder length clips anyway. And most hats and hair clip with weapons worn on the back. (Hell, a lot of bows and quivers clip with themselves!)

For that matter, watch your own gear or even limbs during certain poses and actions. See how many times your arm goes through your face or chest (especially for female characters with larger busts), or shoulder pads go through your head.

Frankly, clipping isn't a good excuse, because everything clips already anyway.