There are too many unobtainable items in this game.

[Avidria]

PvP wall? Just because you don't like PvP doesn't mean the PvP mounts (outside of the feast ones) are "unobtainable." Should SE stop adding rewards to content just because some people don't like it now?

[ShadowNyx3]

Not mentioned, but Minions that were released as promo codes with merchandise or preorders that are no longer available would be nice to be able to purchase on the mog station.

[Omymy]

The OP is the one being hyperbolic saying that “half the content in this game” is unobtainable. They’re also the one bringing up the “PvP wall”—but all of those, with the exception of all PvP mounts but the Ranked Feast ones, are still obtainable if one just works for them. Rather than complaining about the “wall”, why aren’t they trying to actually work towards what they want? They can still get all the Frontlines and Rival Wings mounts by putting time into it. They can even get the Gloria mount from Feast wins, as it isn’t a Ranked Feast reward (which I personally think looks super cool).

It's a figure of speech. But if you count all the mounts in the store, you add up the ones that can't be obtained (either because of your region or because it's been something temporary) the truth is that half of them can't, but it's a % higher than anyone could wish for.

That and the PvP system of this game is horrible and many of the mounts are 100-200 wins. Not play, no, go out victorious with people who often come in to stay afk and do absolutely nothing.

This game has always put incentives in content—even in content that “works well”. And I don’t necessarily think that’s a bad thing. With GARO specifically, the mounts were incredibly easy to obtain. And the event was around for the better part of two years. It’s possible that it could return in the future...since they’re bringing back Yokai for the third time, and they have brought back other outside events before (e.g., the FFXIII event was held three times).

Issues with PvP game mode design is a separate issue from what you’re talking about here, in my opinion.

If you let it appear that the person is lazy you should first look at whether that which you are asked to do is minimally funny or challenging. Playing something that is badly designed or not at all is not the fault of the player, but of those who should be striving to improve that facet of the game.

But come on, they're not going to, if you're supporting an 80-page thong theme and then you don't care that there are things like this in such a deplorable state.

“Best” is subjective—I personally prefer a lot of the in-game mounts over the paid ones. Unless you’re trying to say “best” with regards to the cash shop mounts being double-seaters—though, keep in mind, you can still get a “free” double seater (two, actually) through the Recruit a Friend program (Draught Chocobo and the Amber Draught Chocobo).

The mounts in the shop are much better made and much nicer. Let's see if you're going to try to contradict me on that one, come on, it's the same with the horses in the shop and those you take out, for example, from pvp. Exactly the same, yes.

[HyoMinPark]

It's a figure of speech. But if you count all the mounts in the store, you add up the ones that can't be obtained (either because of your region or because it's been something temporary) the truth is that half of them can't, but it's a % higher than anyone could wish for.

Claiming half of them are unobtainable is hyperbolic. Even with adding up all the MogStation mounts and the Feast exclusives and the old event ones.

That and the PvP system of this game is horrible and many of the mounts are 100-200 wins. Not play, no, go out victorious with people who often come in to stay afk and do absolutely nothing.

While I don’t like PvP and think the mode in this game has flaws, people AFKing in it isn’t the same thing as saying the system itself is flawed. That’s just laziness.

The mounts in the shop are much better made and much nicer. Let's see if you're going to try to contradict me on that one, come on, it's the same with the horses in the shop and those you take out, for example, from pvp. Exactly the same, yes.

Again, this is subjective and your opinion. I disagree that they’re “much better made” and “much nicer” than some of the ones I use, which are all obtainable in-game. I personally tend to use the HW primal birds, the A12S mount, the O1S mount, or the Demi-Ozma mount over cash shop ones.

But I think you’re just looking to argue over this particular point for the sake of arguing.

Not mentioned, but Minions that were released as promo codes with merchandise or preorders that are no longer available would be nice to be able to purchase on the mog station.

With regards to these, apparently, you can order the Carbuncle plushies now and receive a code via email for the minions? The codes within the plushes expired a few years ago, but there was a thread on here a while back that talked about how you were emailed promo codes for the minions if you ordered them now. Not sure if that’s still the case, but.

EDIT: Here’s a link to a Reddit thread talking about it. Still trying to find the thread that was here on the OF.

I personally like the shift they’ve made to making the codes not expire. It would be nice if they would retroactively apply that, because I see very little reason for them to be exclusive.

[Omymy]

Claiming half of them are unobtainable is hyperbolic. Even with adding up all the MogStation mounts and the Feast exclusives and the old event ones.

That's one way of putting it. If I walk down the street and say I'm so hungry I could eat the whole store, it doesn't mean I want to swallow the chairs. I don't know, sometimes you make everything I wonder if you mean it or you're just messing with me.

While I don’t like PvP and think the mode in this game has flaws, people AFKing in it isn’t the same thing as saying the system itself is flawed. That’s just laziness.

It's true. PvP is not even played by God, every time they have to put more rewards in so that people enter and every two months they change it because they don't even know what to do anymore, but it must be a lazy thing. Totally.

Again, this is subjective and your opinion. I disagree that they’re “much better made” and “much nicer” than some of the ones I use, which are all obtainable in-game. I personally tend to use the HW primal birds, the A12S mount, the O1S mount, or the Demi-Ozma mount over cash shop ones.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Which mounts in the cash shop do you consider "better made"? What does that even mean, specifically?


The fate mount from 5.0 is incredibly well made, has animations for flight, and is my favorite mount. I haven't used a cash shop mount in.... Years, if ever actually. The only other mounts I heavily used were recruit a friend. I don't think I own any cash shop mounts now that I think of it....

[Omymy]

Which mounts in the cash shop do you consider "better made"? What does that even mean, specifically?


The fate mount from 5.0 is incredibly well made, has animations for flight, and is my favorite mount. I haven't used a cash shop mount in.... Years, if ever actually. The only other mounts I heavily used were recruit a friend. I don't think I own any cash shop mounts now that I think of it....

Red hare > All the ingame horses.

2 Seats moogle > all 2 seats mounts in the game.

Fatter cat > the entire game itself.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Red hare > All the ingame horses.

2 Seats moogle > all 2 seats mounts in the game.

Fatter cat > the entire game itself.

Ahh, subjective opinion. I dont like any of those 3 mounts lol.

[Omymy]

Ahh, subjective opinion. I dont like any of those 3 mounts lol.

But thats your bad taste, lass.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Fatter cat > the entire game itself.

Eh, it's no rose lanner or cavalry drake.