There are too many unobtainable items in this game.

[HyoMinPark]

Those of you who have answered don't know if the problem is that you can't read or you are just interested in creating a straw man with what is being said.

The OP is the one being hyperbolic saying that “half the content in this game” is unobtainable. They’re also the one bringing up the “PvP wall”—but all of those, with the exception of all PvP mounts but the Ranked Feast ones, are still obtainable if one just works for them. Rather than complaining about the “wall”, why aren’t they trying to actually work towards what they want? They can still get all the Frontlines and Rival Wings mounts by putting time into it. They can even get the Gloria mount from Feast wins, as it isn’t a Ranked Feast reward (which I personally think looks super cool).

No one is asking you to get the mounts just for the sake of entering the game, that's the excuse you use to ridicule something that's true:

Creating objects that you can't get anymore is a lousy marketing strategy, especially since in casual MMO games the collector's figure its important.

The only thing this really applies to is the Feast mounts. Which, there have been a multitude of complaints about on here in the past. I personally disagree with the Ranked Feast mounts being so limited and exclusive to the seasons; but that doesn’t change that the OP is still being hyperbolic in their post when they claim so much is “unobtainable”.

Putting rewards like GARO items for PvP so that people have a reason to enter is another lousy strategy. Instead of doing that you should ask yourself what is the game doing wrong to put that mode in such a poor state since it came out.

This game has always put incentives in content—even in content that “works well”. And I don’t necessarily think that’s a bad thing. With GARO specifically, the mounts were incredibly easy to obtain. And the event was around for the better part of two years. It’s possible that it could return in the future...since they’re bringing back Yokai for the third time, and they have brought back other outside events before (e.g., the FFXIII event was held three times).

Issues with PvP game mode design is a separate issue from what you’re talking about here, in my opinion.

And by the way, the fact that many of the best mounts are from cash shops and have those prices is not something that should make you laugh, eh.

“Best” is subjective—I personally prefer a lot of the in-game mounts over the paid ones. Unless you’re trying to say “best” with regards to the cash shop mounts being double-seaters—though, keep in mind, you can still get a “free” double seater (two, actually) through the Recruit a Friend program (Draught Chocobo and the Amber Draught Chocobo).

[Omymy]

The OP is the one being hyperbolic saying that “half the content in this game” is unobtainable. They’re also the one bringing up the “PvP wall”—but all of those, with the exception of all PvP mounts but the Ranked Feast ones, are still obtainable if one just works for them. Rather than complaining about the “wall”, why aren’t they trying to actually work towards what they want? They can still get all the Frontlines and Rival Wings mounts by putting time into it. They can even get the Gloria mount from Feast wins, as it isn’t a Ranked Feast reward (which I personally think looks super cool).

It's a figure of speech. But if you count all the mounts in the store, you add up the ones that can't be obtained (either because of your region or because it's been something temporary) the truth is that half of them can't, but it's a % higher than anyone could wish for.

That and the PvP system of this game is horrible and many of the mounts are 100-200 wins. Not play, no, go out victorious with people who often come in to stay afk and do absolutely nothing.

This game has always put incentives in content—even in content that “works well”. And I don’t necessarily think that’s a bad thing. With GARO specifically, the mounts were incredibly easy to obtain. And the event was around for the better part of two years. It’s possible that it could return in the future...since they’re bringing back Yokai for the third time, and they have brought back other outside events before (e.g., the FFXIII event was held three times).

Issues with PvP game mode design is a separate issue from what you’re talking about here, in my opinion.

If you let it appear that the person is lazy you should first look at whether that which you are asked to do is minimally funny or challenging. Playing something that is badly designed or not at all is not the fault of the player, but of those who should be striving to improve that facet of the game.

But come on, they're not going to, if you're supporting an 80-page thong theme and then you don't care that there are things like this in such a deplorable state.

“Best” is subjective—I personally prefer a lot of the in-game mounts over the paid ones. Unless you’re trying to say “best” with regards to the cash shop mounts being double-seaters—though, keep in mind, you can still get a “free” double seater (two, actually) through the Recruit a Friend program (Draught Chocobo and the Amber Draught Chocobo).

The mounts in the shop are much better made and much nicer. Let's see if you're going to try to contradict me on that one, come on, it's the same with the horses in the shop and those you take out, for example, from pvp. Exactly the same, yes.

[HyoMinPark]

It's a figure of speech. But if you count all the mounts in the store, you add up the ones that can't be obtained (either because of your region or because it's been something temporary) the truth is that half of them can't, but it's a % higher than anyone could wish for.

Claiming half of them are unobtainable is hyperbolic. Even with adding up all the MogStation mounts and the Feast exclusives and the old event ones.

That and the PvP system of this game is horrible and many of the mounts are 100-200 wins. Not play, no, go out victorious with people who often come in to stay afk and do absolutely nothing.

While I don’t like PvP and think the mode in this game has flaws, people AFKing in it isn’t the same thing as saying the system itself is flawed. That’s just laziness.

The mounts in the shop are much better made and much nicer. Let's see if you're going to try to contradict me on that one, come on, it's the same with the horses in the shop and those you take out, for example, from pvp. Exactly the same, yes.

Again, this is subjective and your opinion. I disagree that they’re “much better made” and “much nicer” than some of the ones I use, which are all obtainable in-game. I personally tend to use the HW primal birds, the A12S mount, the O1S mount, or the Demi-Ozma mount over cash shop ones.

But I think you’re just looking to argue over this particular point for the sake of arguing.

Not mentioned, but Minions that were released as promo codes with merchandise or preorders that are no longer available would be nice to be able to purchase on the mog station.

With regards to these, apparently, you can order the Carbuncle plushies now and receive a code via email for the minions? The codes within the plushes expired a few years ago, but there was a thread on here a while back that talked about how you were emailed promo codes for the minions if you ordered them now. Not sure if that’s still the case, but.

EDIT: Here’s a link to a Reddit thread talking about it. Still trying to find the thread that was here on the OF.

I personally like the shift they’ve made to making the codes not expire. It would be nice if they would retroactively apply that, because I see very little reason for them to be exclusive.

[Omymy]

Claiming half of them are unobtainable is hyperbolic. Even with adding up all the MogStation mounts and the Feast exclusives and the old event ones.

That's one way of putting it. If I walk down the street and say I'm so hungry I could eat the whole store, it doesn't mean I want to swallow the chairs. I don't know, sometimes you make everything I wonder if you mean it or you're just messing with me.

While I don’t like PvP and think the mode in this game has flaws, people AFKing in it isn’t the same thing as saying the system itself is flawed. That’s just laziness.

It's true. PvP is not even played by God, every time they have to put more rewards in so that people enter and every two months they change it because they don't even know what to do anymore, but it must be a lazy thing. Totally.

Again, this is subjective and your opinion. I disagree that they’re “much better made” and “much nicer” than some of the ones I use, which are all obtainable in-game. I personally tend to use the HW primal birds, the A12S mount, the O1S mount, or the Demi-Ozma mount over cash shop ones.

[HyoMinPark]

I know. It’s incredibly difficult to think that people may not share your opinions. But, with time, I think you can come to accept it.

The Fat Cat is a really cool minion, but the corresponsing mount... legs vanishing into the body in ugly holes that can be seen if the Cat rests on uneven ground is a well made mount in your opinion?

Carbuncle noses. Well Made™.

....dude, that's 100% opinion. All 3 of these are opinion and 'personally' I find that moogle mount creepy as HECK and refuse to use it or go near it if someone offers me a ride on it. I'd rather use my own mount and follow. I don't think it's 'better made' at all. It's creepy.

Word. That thing is an abomination, in my opinion. I swear it eats children.

[Elladie]

I know. It’s incredibly difficult to think that people may not share your opinions. But, with time, I think you can come to accept it.

I would suggest not holding your breath. In the meantime, the ignore list is a marvellous thing.

I do my very best to be a tolerant person, but some people become unbearable.

As for the OP, they complain about everything and, if anyone disagrees, calls them white knights at the politest. I've been on the forums nearly 8 years now, but I sometimes almost finding myself wishing the game wasn't so popular. Apparently popularity breeds trolls, rudeness, folks who seem to have no reading comprehension....

Rant over! My apologies, it's been a long day

[Canadane]

I don't think there's anything wrong with unobtainable items.
It's part of a living breathing environment that in an MMO.

[Fhaerron]

I found there are a lot of mounts ingame though.

Most of the mogstation ones are ugly and have bad music.
Meanwhile you have a lot of mounts from EX & savage with cool music.