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  1. #41
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    Just extend housing demolition timer beyond the pitiful 45 days and be rid of this constant on and off nonsense.

    Also, active sub should be enough to not lose the house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    You're acting as if only one person at a time is suffering from an illness or a financial crisis.

    The reality is the number of people currently hospitalized across the world because they're suffering from severe illness/injury or who are having a sudden financial crisis right now is far greater than the number of people who have been displaced so far by the Australia fires.

    Why are you saying "tough luck" to all those hundreds of thousands of people while you expect extremes of compassion to displayed toward those few thousand displaced in Australia?

    I'll go back to what I said before. SE is in a far better position to know how many FFXIV players have been impacted by the fires since they can tell what players listing a residence in the fire zones have stopped playing. I'm certain they will make the right decision based on their knowledge.

    They don't need players who only have a vague idea of what's happening in AUS telling them to suspend demolition so they can take a 6 month break from the game and not lose a house in a game they aren't playing while those who are playing can't get one.
    So let me get this right when a fire off this size breaks out the only FFXIX players impacted by the fires are the ones that have there residence in the fire zones, now really think hard about what you said because i'm sure all the fire fighters, volunteer firefighters, DR's, nurses and every one else that is helping out as much as they can would love for you to say that to them. A fire this big affects more then just the people living in the ares off the fires i'm sure after spending all day trying to put out the fires and gain control the first thing on there mind is to log into FFXIV when they get a break and not rest up ready to go back to it tomorrow.

    I'm sure they don't need someone that thinks the fires in AUS only affects the people living in the fire zones and no one else that suspending demolition is a good idea because people will use it to take a break from the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ausanimal View Post
    So let me get this right when a fire off this size breaks out the only FFXIX players impacted by the fires are the ones that have there residence in the fire zones, now really think hard about what you said because i'm sure all the fire fighters, volunteer firefighters, DR's, nurses and every one else that is helping out as much as they can would love for you to say that to them. A fire this big affects more then just the people living in the ares off the fires i'm sure after spending all day trying to put out the fires and gain control the first thing on there mind is to log into FFXIV when they get a break and not rest up ready to go back to it tomorrow.

    I'm sure they don't need someone that thinks the fires in AUS only affects the people living in the fire zones and no one else that suspending demolition is a good idea because people will use it to take a break from the game.
    What about the thousands of people who lose their homes on a daily basis to random fires?

    Why is one person's tragedy more deserving of concessions than another person's?

    You're right that this also affects the first responders and medical/relief workers in those areas but those people still have the chance to return home at night to play FFXIV so they don't lose their in game houses.

    Again, leave it to SE to decide if the suspension of the demo timer is needed just as they have done for past disasters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    What about the thousands of people who lose their homes on a daily basis to random fires?

    Why is one person's tragedy more deserving of concessions than another person's?

    You're right that this also affects the first responders and medical/relief workers in those areas but those people still have the chance to return home at night to play FFXIV so they don't lose their in game houses.

    Again, leave it to SE to decide if the suspension of the demo timer is needed just as they have done for past disasters.
    No one is saying one group or the other is less deserving. They are pointing out that there are differences for the types of tragedies you are attempting to compare here. It is far easier for a company (e.g., SE) to make concessions for a group of individuals all similarly affected by a tragedy centered around their nation/community (e.g., a large-scale natural disaster like a hurricane, typhoon, earthquake, or wide-spread wildfires) than it is for a company to make concessions to people with individual-type sufferings (e.g., depression, rehab/PT, financial crises, isolated incidents like house fires, even smaller-scale natural disasters that don’t spread beyond a town, etc.) spread all over the globe. You are trying incredibly hard to twist the words of other posters.

    People are leaving it up to SE. But there is zero harm is asking for it to be done as it has been done before. That’s not a crime.
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  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    What about the thousands of people who lose their homes on a daily basis to random fires?

    Why is one person's tragedy more deserving of concessions than another person's?

    You're right that this also affects the first responders and medical/relief workers in those areas but those people still have the chance to return home at night to play FFXIV so they don't lose their in game houses.

    Again, leave it to SE to decide if the suspension of the demo timer is needed just as they have done for past disasters.
    For one thing it's not just one person's tragedy the fire has affected a lot off people to try and compare the fires in AUS to 1 person tragedy is 2 different things.

    If you just spent 16 hours fighting a fire and you get to go home for the night knowing that in 8 hours you will be back out there again would logging onto FFXIV be the first thing on your mind, what about the people that came over from the US to help out should they get punished and lost there house because they came to AUS to help with the fires?
    It's really not that hard to see why SE should put a suspension of the demo of houses for the time being as it's not just people in AUS but also people coming from other countries to lend a hand that may not be able to log into the game for a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ausanimal View Post
    For one thing it's not just one person's tragedy the fire has affected a lot off people to try and compare the fires in AUS to 1 person tragedy is 2 different things.

    If you just spent 16 hours fighting a fire and you get to go home for the night knowing that in 8 hours you will be back out there again would logging onto FFXIV be the first thing on your mind, what about the people that came over from the US to help out should they get punished and lost there house because they came to AUS to help with the fires?
    It's really not that hard to see why SE should put a suspension of the demo of houses for the time being as it's not just people in AUS but also people coming from other countries to lend a hand that may not be able to log into the game for a while.
    Honestly, it'd just be a nice gesture on their part because it's definitely bigger than some would think. I just wouldn't expect them to do it is all. I just feel that they should. Some disagree and that is their right I suppose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    Honestly, it'd just be a nice gesture on their part because it's definitely bigger than some would think. I just wouldn't expect them to do it is all. I just feel that they should. Some disagree and that is their right I suppose.
    I dont think it would only count as a nice gesture, it would honestly be only fair if they stop it...seeing how long the JP players got their timer stopped for things happening in their country. Not doing it for other countries if they are suffering a national crisis would just be showing that they dont care much outside of their own bubble which I really hope that it wont be the case.

    The best would be to change the system completely and if they dont want to take it away completely then at least make it so that you only need an active sub to stop it..
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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    +1 for support.
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    I can agree with this, it's a rather sizable problem that has affected many. It would be quite unfortunate for the Australian players to find out their in-game houses are demolished as well whenever this will finally settle down and they have found somewhere to stay if they lost their real life house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ausanimal View Post
    For one thing it's not just one person's tragedy the fire has affected a lot off people to try and compare the fires in AUS to 1 person tragedy is 2 different things.

    If you just spent 16 hours fighting a fire and you get to go home for the night knowing that in 8 hours you will be back out there again would logging onto FFXIV be the first thing on your mind, what about the people that came over from the US to help out should they get punished and lost there house because they came to AUS to help with the fires?
    It's really not that hard to see why SE should put a suspension of the demo of houses for the time being as it's not just people in AUS but also people coming from other countries to lend a hand that may not be able to log into the game for a while.
    Except you're making assumptions that there is a significant number of FFXIV players who own a house in the game and are unable to play because of the fires, whether they've been displaced or they're acting as emergency/relief workers.

    What if there aren't? What if SE is finding no evidence that any FFXIV player who owns a house in the game has been prevented from logging in due to the fires and that's why they haven't suspended the demo timer in any region?

    Are people going to call SE cruel and uncaring for not making concessions for a problem that may not be affecting more than 1 or 2 players if any at all?

    I trust SE to make the right decision. Considering the fires have been burning since September, I'm certain they would have already suspended the demo timers if warranted. It would have happened before most of you were even aware the fires were going on.
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