Main Scenario Roulette skip

[LeoLupinos]

I say turn it into solo duty.

MSQ roullete giving the highest reward means that that chunk of EXP will be deducted from other duties that would actually be "fun" and matter to the game. By letting player level all their jobs only with MSQ Roullete EXP means that the other leveling parts of the game will suffer. Things like Deep Dungeon and Leveling dungeons.

The whole effort to turn the overword pointless just to make players desire instanced content is gone if all they need to do is MSQ roullete once a day until they level everything. This is the worst design I've ever seen from a logical perspective.

If it's not fun, there's something wrong. I thought they said that they've learnt it.

[Arillyn]

As someone stated earlier, the MSQ roulette is for new people who need to do it for their MSQ - not for veterans (but you as a veteran get a very big chunk of xp as a reward for doing it).

Before when you could skip the cut scenes, if you were new you had two choices, 1) skip the cut scene so you could participate in the fights or 2) watch the cut scenes and miss the actual fights because the rest of the group wouldn't wait for you and/or yell at you and possibly kick you for not skipping the cut scenes.

SE was tired of new people who were going through the MSQ for the first time having to make those choices. So SE decided to make them unskippable (which I believe was also a suggestion on this forum) and then boosted the xp significantly to make it worth queuing up for the MSQ roulette for veterans.

This is working as intended. If you don't want to sit through the entire dungeon and all cs then don't do the roulette. Yes sometimes there isn't a new person there, but that's just how the roulette works. Maybe in 5.3 SE will be adjusting these two MSQ dungeons - guess we'll have to see.

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[Macleod]

I don't know why people always complain about it...

Obviously because they somehow think if SE made the cutscenes skippable again, the xp and rewards would stay the same...when the rest of us know they would absolutely, completely, and utterly nerf them 10,000 yalms underground if they did.

[Tlamila]

Here we go again.
And I'm also baffled and all the "either give us cutscenes skip or make it a solo duty", if they make ti a solo duty no more roulette for you, so why not just skip the roulette?
I'll honestly be sad wen that roulette will be gone, it's the only one I do to level extra classes. easy, painless and <3 Gaius and Nero.

[Goji1639]

Skip should be an option only if EVERYONE has already done that Duty before.

Still, even if they did this then people will likely just start abandoning when they see a new player in the raid. There's really no way to do this that doesn't go against the entire purpose of the MSQ roulette in the first place.

Making it a solo duty is probably the best option if people REALLY have such a big problem with how it is now, but I've liked having the MSQ roulette to help me level characters and farm poetics. Maybe we should just suck it up and watch the cutscenes, or get a snack during them.

[Tsalmaveth]

This topic AGAIN? How many times do we need to go over this?

Look, plain and simple: If you want all those lovely tomes and MASSIVE exp reward - you have to sit through the cut scenes. That's the ONLY REASON they put in the increased rewards. Cause, effect.

The moment they remove the forced aspect of those cut scenes is the EXACT moment that they will REMOVE the upgraded rewards. You will no longer DESERVE them. You will not be earning them. The rewards are for your invested TIME. If you can just skip them, you no longer are taking the time to do something and no longer get all that juicy exp and the extra tomes. Period. End of story. There is literally no getting around or arguing with this basic fact.

If you don't like wasting your time? You shouldn't do the roulette. That's all there is to it. Really. The roulette was put in place to help new people actually SEE THE STORY the way that they intended without being bullied and left behind by jaded and rude vets who only cared about getting through it 'as fast as possible' and leaving them behind, bum-rushing bosses, and forcing them to just sit there being dragged from boss to boss without seeing a thing... which is what you all want to do to them as well. 'You can see them in the inn!' is nor fair or good to players who actually enjoy or want to see things AT THE TIME. And yes, there are people who DO want to actually see it as it happens. It matters.

I sincerely, deeply, REALLY hope that they finish re-doing the ARR 2.0 story soon and that includes CM and Prea, turning them into TRUST-like dungeons that no longer require 8-man groups.... which completely rip out the MSQ Roulette. Just remove all that exp/tome reward. No more threads. No more people exploiting. And people can level other ways.

[lolicon09]

Still, even if they did this then people will likely just start abandoning when they see a new player in the raid. There's really no way to do this that doesn't go against the entire purpose of the MSQ roulette in the first place.

Making it a solo duty is probably the best option if people REALLY have such a big problem with how it is now, but I've liked having the MSQ roulette to help me level characters and farm poetics. Maybe we should just suck it up and watch the cutscenes, or get a snack during them.

I mean, people already abandon those two Duties anyway (mainly Castrum Meridianum). I've joined to many Party in Progress runs in both places where like half the party left. But, indeed, some assholes will go for sure if the Skip option is not available for them at the begining, but at least this is better than kicking first timers, since others may join (not like you even require a full party to finish them, unless all 8 people are ilvl 50)

[WrenElessedil]

FYI for people who keep saying we should have the cutscenes be optionally skippable: it's not going to happen, ever. The cutscenes are hard coded to be skippable or non-skippable, so the option can't exist without an overhaul of the code around them, at which point they would probably be made into solo duties anyway.

[Omymy]

you can skip them by NOT doing MSQ.

[Goji1639]

I mean, people already abandon those two Duties anyway (mainly Castrum Meridianum). I've joined to many Party in Progress runs in both places where like half the party left. But, indeed, some assholes will go for sure if the Skip option is not available for them at the begining, but at least this is better than kicking first timers, since others may join (not like you even require a full party to finish them, unless all 8 people are ilvl 50)

The best option right now is to leave things as they are. New players can watch the cutscenes without having to concern themselves with it being "their fault" the raid is moving so slow. Everyone understands what they're getting into when they queue, and that finding a PUG without new players won't make things go any faster.

Maybe some people are willing to eat the abandon if they get the one that's worth less exp, but that's not significant enough to be a real issue.

I really don't see the big deal. It's still way more efficient than pretty much every other way to level and farm poetics. Losing this roulette would hurt veteran players more than help, and SE OBVIOUSLY isn't going to let us reap the same rewards while avoiding or pressuring new players to skip.