what excuse will they use for there being no female hrothgar in the bozja citadel?

[RyuDragnier]

What was their excuse for not showing any on the First? I haven't done any sidequest where it's mentioned yet.

In lore reason, there has been no excuse. Real life excuse, they were literally cutting it down to the wire just to get Hrothgar out the door for the expansion. They most likely did not have the time to create the female models before the expansion release, and their new dungeon release schedule (1 dungeon only each patch) may be an attempt to get the dungeon team's help so they're able to get the female Hrothgar (and male Viera) models ready for the next expansion.

[zeylos]

In lore reason, there has been no excuse. Real life excuse, they were literally cutting it down to the wire just to get Hrothgar out the door for the expansion. They most likely did not have the time to create the female models before the expansion release, and their new dungeon release schedule (1 dungeon only each patch) may be an attempt to get the dungeon team's help so they're able to get the female Hrothgar (and male Viera) models ready for the next expansion.

I also think that. I really hope that they dont really sacrifice 'actual' (playable) content for them. As much as I seriously want male viera, we have to look at the bigger picture here, and more people will want to play the actual game than those that want to play as a male viera or female hrotgar

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

I also think that. I really hope that they dont really sacrifice 'actual' (playable) content for them. As much as I seriously want male viera, we have to look at the bigger picture here, and more people will want to play the actual game than those that want to play as a male viera or female hrotgar

........Finally. Somebody else is saying it.

[zeylos]

........Finally. Somebody else is saying it.

I mean, I believe many ppl, especially in the male viera thread have stated this and I wholeheartedly agree with them tbh. I prefer to be a female miqo and enjyo a fully fleshed polished game than a male viera playing WoD 2.0

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

I mean, I believe many ppl, especially in the male viera thread have stated this and I wholeheartedly agree with them tbh. I prefer to be a female miqo and enjyo a fully fleshed polished game than a male viera playing WoD 2.0

I'm just happy to see somebody else acknowledge that content for the game itself is more important then pushing to get Male Viera and Female Hrothgar.
And that odds are if we get them, it's better that it should happen Next Expansion.

We don't NEED 2 new dungeons every major patch, but I do hope there is a good trade off for both current ShB content, and future Expansion Content. Not limited to the 2 races.

[Angus-Beef]

Also if they add any female Hrothgar they'll probably give her the Yugiri treatment until the end of the expac or relic grind and then give her a real model for female hrothgar.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Also if they add any female Hrothgar they'll probably give her the Yugiri treatment until the end of the expac or relic grind and then give her a real model for female hrothgar.

Honestly, I wouldn't be against that. Or even if they tease us with a (maybe Semi-) Important NPC to show them off. Just like Fran showed off the Viera in-game.
Heres to praying..dear Goddess in the Sky I am hoping, they stay a BEAST race. And not be all soft faced Humans with a few cat features. Giving us a 2nd version of the Miqote will make me rage like a MF.
Then I also hope just like the Males they will base the Females of the Roe as well.

[Theodric]

I'm just happy to see somebody else acknowledge that content for the game itself is more important then pushing to get Male Viera and Female Hrothgar.
And that odds are if we get them, it's better that it should happen Next Expansion.

I'm a little surprised. You've clearly been following the male viera thread pretty closely due to how often you've been posting in it, so I would have thought you'd have seen that pretty much every active poster there has been saying that very thing - that they'd rather not see actual content sacrificed for the sake of seeing the missing genders added to the game.

Though with Square Enix being such a wealthy and influential company I don't think it's unreasonable to hope for and push for the best of both worlds - with the game receiving a bigger budget/more developers so that we can get new content and the missing genders added within a reasonable time-frame.

[Lauront]

I mean, I believe many ppl, especially in the male viera thread have stated this and I wholeheartedly agree with them tbh. I prefer to be a female miqo and enjyo a fully fleshed polished game than a male viera playing WoD 2.0

The problem comes down to defining what actual content is. A lot of people would consider character customisation and appearance to enhance their enjoyment of the content. Whereas, you can count on a single hand how many people enjoy PVP in this game. Okay, perhaps an exaggeration, but it's a tiny, tiny minority, and yet they keep pouring money down this sink hole and still it shows little improvement. Ultimately, I do think they fall prey to the sunk cost fallacy at times with several forms of content. Maybe they'll eventually hit the right notes with PVP, who knows, but they should be priorisiting their resource flow in terms of where it enhances the product the most. It's questionable that they always do that.

I think with them cutting down a few dungeons per expansion, they will free up team resources to do a number of other things, depending on how they use them. Dungeons are pretty intensive in terms of how much they need to design, and ultimately, for a project like converting the textures to high res (previously, they gave an example of a trade-off for implementing this as being a reduction in the output of new gear... which I don't think is something most players would truly mind), it is gruntwork which does not require a hugely specialised skillset, either within the company or Japan. My hope is that they're gearing up to improve on the graphics for 6.0 and are reducing their workload elsewhere with this in mind. I also hope that there will be more of a focus on giving the existing jobs interesting abilities for 6.0... and no doubt, they're considering how to go about a new healer.

Where people lose faith is when nothing comes in to replace the content being cut... but for now, I wait and see.

[Jandroid]

I honestly think that female Hrothgar and male Viera will eventually come to the game. Making a new race requires a lot of development but I believe that they will eventually arrive since the Hrothgar and the Viera are the last two races in the game.

With that in mind, I wouldn't be surprised if they do add placeholder NPC models for female Hrothgars.