Crafter and Gatherer jump potions

[Jillian]

Crafting and gathering is so tedious, I mean it takes a whole three days to max them out. I got work, kids, a wife.... please add jump potions SE

This is a troll post, right?

[Jimmymagic]

This is a troll post, right?

Probably...

[AnimaAnimus]

This is a troll post, right?

Likely, and not a very good one.

[Maxeum]

If they start making everything too easy nothing has value. There wouldn't be a struggle, no accomplishment, it would turn into a list of chores.
real life examples, doctors, lawyers, businessmen, etc... These are valued because they are hard, they are hard because they require commitment, time, effort....

[AnimaAnimus]

There wouldn't be a struggle, no accomplishment, it would turn into a list of chores.
real life examples, doctors, lawyers, businessmen, etc... These are valued because they are hard, they are hard because they require commitment, time, effort....

To be fair, FFXIV is basically a list of chores devoid of struggle and accomplishment. But its shiny and everything is so cutesy wutesy and ppl who never were able to get the big rewards can on Eorzea, hence the popularity. It was only a matter of time before crafting was hit too, and it wasn't really that hard pre-5.0 either, everyone just had macros to hq stuff.

I haven't gotten a drop that felt earned in this game since 1.0, which is pretty standard in gaming these days. I kindda feel ffxiv just takes the easy button to the extreme sometimes because its a cheap way to get ppl hooked on the game. The bad thing is that they have set a standard and now they have to keep those dopamine fixes coming and to keep that needle full, they are changing the old stuff too.

FFXIV at this point cannot be saved, it would crash and burn of they took away all the easy rewards or didn't change the old stuff to be easier. 5.x took a major slide backwards on difficulty of everything, just look at Copied Factory, Eden, every single dungeon, Primals… so old things like crafting being cheapened with an easy button is to be expected.

I just hope beyond hope, Yoshida doesn't get his fingers in the pots of any future FF games, esp the next mmo. He did an amazing job saving FFXIV, but he is coming across as a one trick pony and at this point I really don't think he knows what to do. Not only that be he seems to have gotten so comfortable in his echo chamber of praise that he doesn't really know it.

[tdb]

FFXIV at this point cannot be saved, it would crash and burn of they took away all the easy rewards or didn't change the old stuff to be easier. 5.x took a major slide backwards on difficulty of everything, just look at Copied Factory, Eden, every single dungeon, Primals… so old things like crafting being cheapened with an easy button is to be expected.

Copied factory is one of the hardest, if not the hardest alliance raid so far mechanics-wise. I feel Eden is comparable to Omega as well, though I haven't tried savage yet. I don't know how the balancing was back in ARR and HW, but at least since StB the Lv50 alliance raids have been a total joke. The Lv60 raids are kind of getting there, but things only got really interesting at Lv70. Part of it may be overgearing but fact is that the older content was mostly beating things with only an occasional mechanic, whereas later raids really require awareness to not get stomped on.

Dungeons have never been particularly hard, at least in the time I've played. Here, too, the later ones have more interesting mechanics and the current batch of expert dungeons have a few pulls where I really have to concentrate on healing.

As for the crafting changes, I'm pretty indifferent. I mostly craft for myself and my friends anyway. In my current circle I'm still the only one who has bothered to level up crafters.

[AnimaAnimus]

Copied factory is one of the hardest, if not the hardest alliance raid so far mechanics-wise.

Really? I thought that was Ivalice. Esp since even on week one it was not uncommon to have a wipe-free Copied Factory run, while in Ivalice it was common to wipe repeatedly even weeks out of launch.

[tdb]

Really? I thought that was Ivalice. Esp since even on week one it was not uncommon to have a wipe-free Copied Factory run, while in Ivalice it was common to wipe repeatedly even weeks out of launch.

True, there's rarely a full wipe in Copied Factory, but people keep dying left and right. I don't recall having to do quite as much raising in any of the Ivalice raids. I guess Copied Factory is more forgiving to the mistakes of individual players though; Ivalice has several mechanics where a single misplaced mechanic can cause a wipe. So maybe they're just different kinds of hard.

[Gemina]

Really? I thought that was Ivalice. Esp since even on week one it was not uncommon to have a wipe-free Copied Factory run, while in Ivalice it was common to wipe repeatedly even weeks out of launch.

I would compare Copied Factory to Rabanastre if we want to use any of the Ivalice Raids. Full wipes after the first week were rare as well. I would highly expect the third Nier Raid to be a total wipe fest when we get it late ShB just like Cid... er, I mean Orbonne in SB. I also wouldn't use full wipes but rather individual KOs to determine how much mechanics are being failed. One alliance being down, or too many KOd players during the DPS checks is typically what causes full on wipes. Even when the later Nier raids come out and mechanics become more punishing, it just isn't plausible to gauge the difficulty of it when very few players can screw things up for the whole raid.