Does WoW have a faster pace than FFXIV?

[Angus-Beef]

The original OP of the post was is it faster. WoW is faster, also a little more entertaining with Mythic+ and higher tier raiding.

I disagree on it looking terrible. Yes the engine is dated but it is not as old looking as it once was. It's actually holding out quite well for the time we're in, look wise.

4 button rotation, is no different than some jobs in FF14 5 or 6 button rotation with filler 30s. Much the same like WoW.

Speed does matter, to some. It does to me considerably. FF14 is slow, like really really slow. Generally 2.4+ GCDs for BIS for most jobs compared to WoWs 1s GCD. That feels way more fluid, even if you're pressing 4 buttons, it feels incredibly better.

Still, WoW is not archaic garbage considering it's still one of the top MMOs still around, which stands for something. I only talked about positives because what you pointed out as in negatives, are actually positives in my opinion. I don't recommend people play FF14 for anything outside of story as much as I recommend WoW for anything but story.

Alas I play both and pay a subscription to both for their end game.... FF14's end game is quite...... lackluster, would be the better word. I'm enjoying the story though, which is why I'm still sticking around.

Anyways back on point to the original OP post, WoW is way way faster than FF14.

The problem is that these people played WoW for probably a few days, never touched endgame and didnt even try Mythic plus if they did, so it has to be bad cuz FFXIV is good. This can't possibly be all up to preference.

[MrKusakabe]

I disagree on it looking terrible. Yes the engine is dated but it is not as old looking as it once was. It's actually holding out quite well for the time we're in, look wise.. [...]
Still, WoW is not archaic garbage considering it's still one of the top MMOs still around, which stands for something. [...]

It is not only about the engine. WoW has a very ugly character design that looks as creepy as the UT99 models. I play many MS-DOS games and there are games that age good, and games that don't. WoW is one of those that give me the creeps like many N64 games. And no, it does not hold quite well, you are just adjusted to it and the environment. That is fine. In our public library, there is still a Win3.11 computer because there is no need to change the system - but that does not mean there are no new, better, faster systems.

The second portion is the same: Just because there is no WoW II, that's all. WoW created a massive wave of addicts with endless talkshows and documentaries in the mid-to-late 2000s, and that is coming from somewhere and won't go simply away. Like smoking. You can show people the negative effects - still there are hundres of millions of smokers. Also, if Blizzard is so good with their design directions, why would they have a "classic" version? Looks like neither direction of the game went so well eventually.

The gameplay of FFXIV is really not quick and it often like a choreography or a Japanese game show - be on Spot X when the annoying music and the blinking light stops, else... But I think it's quite the point of its path.

To the rest: Do not give the angry pub brawler with the Moogle mask more beer and snacks. He might be less angry when the game is translated in Spanish. . .


Sincerely,

[Angus-Beef]

It is not only about the engine. WoW has a very ugly character design that looks as creepy as the UT99 models. I play many MS-DOS games and there are games that age good, and games that don't. WoW is one of those that give me the creeps like many N64 games. And no, it does not hold quite well, you are just adjusted to it and the environment. That is fine. In our public library, there is still a Win3.11 computer because there is no need to change the system - but that does not mean there are no new, better, faster systems.

The second portion is the same: Just because there is no WoW II, that's all. WoW created a massive wave of addicts with endless talkshows and documentaries in the mid-to-late 2000s, and that is coming from somewhere and won't go simply away. Like smoking. You can show people the negative effects - still there are hundres of millions of smokers. Also, if Blizzard is so good with their design directions, why would they have a "classic" version? Looks like neither direction of the game went so well eventually.

The gameplay of FFXIV is really not quick and it often like a choreography or a Japanese game show - be on Spot X when the annoying music and the blinking light stops, else... But I think it's quite the point of its path.

To the rest: Do not give the angry pub brawler with the Moogle mask more beer and snacks. He might be less angry when the game is translated in Spanish. . .


Sincerely,

Classic was created to crackdown on private servers, look at the model updates for the new expansion, ffxiv designs are a reaction to the game being server based and not client side, imagine not having a fully scripted fight in a game that punishes you for moving a second too late.

[tdb]

No, she said I bought my account because I think BLM is boring. To prove it (which I don't have to do because it's not a GM) I just posted a picture of my BLM. Then she said it's not possible because the char on the screen is a miqote and I said I used a phantasia.

What exactly can't you understand here?

We can already see from your character profile on Lodestone that you have all classes at Lv80. There's no need to prove anything about that. On the other hand, there's nothing whatsoever in those screenshots that proves it's actually your character; you could have grabbed some random screenshots from Discord and posted them here. They don't even have a character name visible.

[Bright-Flower]

WoW is certainly faster paced with its quicker gcd.

As far as which game is better... that's harder to say.

I think FFXIV looks better, but WoW has also updated its graphics over time.

FFXIV has a much better character creator, but WoW has both a greater quantity and grater variety of races. WIth the exception of Hrothgar not much in FFXIV steps outside of the mold much. You can do more with the FFXIV races that are here, like change eye color, eye shape, noses etc indpeendatly rather than just face options as a package. You have height and bust sliders and more skin color options. But while WoW's CC is much more limited, it helps make up for this with a greater quanitty and diversity of base races, plus allied race variants now.

FFIXV has 17 main jobs and WoW 12 classes, but WoW's classes have ( on average) three different specs and talent trees to shake things up.

Both games have had high and low points in story. WoW's story in BFA has been bad IMO, while SHB has been pretty good story wise. But these things tend to fluctuate between the games IMO and FFXIV's story quality has not been consistently good through the entire run in my opinion.

I've found that while there has been pruning in WoW, the whole 'three button spec' thing is an exaggeration in the classes I've played.

One advantage WoW has is quantity of content. I haven't done savage raiding, or non lfr raiding in WoW since emerald nightmare, but I don't recall WoW raid fights bieng low quality either unless that's changed lately. WoW raids give you four difficulty modes and more than 4 bosses in a raid tier. They have mythic + to keep dungeons challenging and relevant beyond farming gear currency. If I were still a progression raider like I was in WOW from Wrath through MoP WoW would probably be my preferred game, but as I'm more casual now and disenfranchised with chasing the loot treadmill it doesn't matter to me as much now how many fights are in a raid tier or how many difficulties a raid has to progress through. WoW also has flex raiding which is basically the best thing ever for casual/midcore raid guilds while still having the tighter tuning on Mythic with a set raid size.

[Omymy]

We can already see from your character profile on Lodestone that you have all classes at Lv80. There's no need to prove anything about that. On the other hand, there's nothing whatsoever in those screenshots that proves it's actually your character; you could have grabbed some random screenshots from Discord and posted them here. They don't even have a character name visible.

You are right, next time ill make a videoblog on YouTube so you all can see i didnt buy my account.

It is not only about the engine. WoW has a very ugly character design that looks as creepy as the UT99 models.

And the relation between this and the battle pace is?, ah, you just wanted to appear in the photo (as always).

[linay]

imagine not having a fully scripted fight in a game that punishes you for moving a second too late.

That's my WoW experience and it's not as fun. The scripted fight is what justifies punishing you for moving late. Having random AOEs appearing in succession in WoW is annoying.

[Angus-Beef]

That's my WoW experience and it's not as fun. The scripted fight is what justifies punishing you for moving late. Having random AOEs appearing in succession in WoW is annoying.

The same can be said for not paying attention to the bosses tells in WoW. But everyone's experience is different.

[linay]

The same can be said for not paying attention to the bosses tells in WoW. But everyone's experience is different.

Sure, if the tells are clear as tells are simply part of a fight script. That's not the case with the AOEs I'm talking about.

[Razard]

The same can be said for not paying attention to the bosses tells in WoW. But everyone's experience is different.

And by boss tells you mean "Listen out for the add on Call Out to avoid the random insta-death aoe that was put in because the game is so swamped with mods that essentially play the game for you it's the only way to make the game challenging"

Or the WoW Modding Arms Race as I like to call it.