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    I find in WoW the AOEs happen alot slower as well as the mechanics.

    In FFXIV while the global cooldown is longer there are times where you are focused more on mechanics due to them happening simultaneously. For me it depends on the job you play and how complex the dps rotation is.
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    WoW is so much faster than FF14. Like, way way faster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yamr3 View Post
    WoW is so much faster than FF14. Like, way way faster.
    How does speed even matter. WoW is archaic garbage at this point. It looks terrible and apparently plays terrible too. 4 button rotations? really?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    How does speed even matter. WoW is archaic garbage at this point. It looks terrible and apparently plays terrible too. 4 button rotations? really?
    The original OP of the post was is it faster. WoW is faster, also a little more entertaining with Mythic+ and higher tier raiding.

    I disagree on it looking terrible. Yes the engine is dated but it is not as old looking as it once was. It's actually holding out quite well for the time we're in, look wise.

    4 button rotation, is no different than some jobs in FF14 5 or 6 button rotation with filler 30s. Much the same like WoW.

    Speed does matter, to some. It does to me considerably. FF14 is slow, like really really slow. Generally 2.4+ GCDs for BIS for most jobs compared to WoWs 1s GCD. That feels way more fluid, even if you're pressing 4 buttons, it feels incredibly better.

    Still, WoW is not archaic garbage considering it's still one of the top MMOs still around, which stands for something. I only talked about positives because what you pointed out as in negatives, are actually positives in my opinion. I don't recommend people play FF14 for anything outside of story as much as I recommend WoW for anything but story.

    Alas I play both and pay a subscription to both for their end game.... FF14's end game is quite...... lackluster, would be the better word. I'm enjoying the story though, which is why I'm still sticking around.

    Anyways back on point to the original OP post, WoW is way way faster than FF14.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yamr3 View Post
    The original OP of the post was is it faster. WoW is faster, also a little more entertaining with Mythic+ and higher tier raiding.

    I disagree on it looking terrible. Yes the engine is dated but it is not as old looking as it once was. It's actually holding out quite well for the time we're in, look wise.

    4 button rotation, is no different than some jobs in FF14 5 or 6 button rotation with filler 30s. Much the same like WoW.

    Speed does matter, to some. It does to me considerably. FF14 is slow, like really really slow. Generally 2.4+ GCDs for BIS for most jobs compared to WoWs 1s GCD. That feels way more fluid, even if you're pressing 4 buttons, it feels incredibly better.

    Still, WoW is not archaic garbage considering it's still one of the top MMOs still around, which stands for something. I only talked about positives because what you pointed out as in negatives, are actually positives in my opinion. I don't recommend people play FF14 for anything outside of story as much as I recommend WoW for anything but story.

    Alas I play both and pay a subscription to both for their end game.... FF14's end game is quite...... lackluster, would be the better word. I'm enjoying the story though, which is why I'm still sticking around.

    Anyways back on point to the original OP post, WoW is way way faster than FF14.
    The problem is that these people played WoW for probably a few days, never touched endgame and didnt even try Mythic plus if they did, so it has to be bad cuz FFXIV is good. This can't possibly be all up to preference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yamr3 View Post
    I disagree on it looking terrible. Yes the engine is dated but it is not as old looking as it once was. It's actually holding out quite well for the time we're in, look wise.. [...]
    Still, WoW is not archaic garbage considering it's still one of the top MMOs still around, which stands for something. [...]

    It is not only about the engine. WoW has a very ugly character design that looks as creepy as the UT99 models. I play many MS-DOS games and there are games that age good, and games that don't. WoW is one of those that give me the creeps like many N64 games. And no, it does not hold quite well, you are just adjusted to it and the environment. That is fine. In our public library, there is still a Win3.11 computer because there is no need to change the system - but that does not mean there are no new, better, faster systems.

    The second portion is the same: Just because there is no WoW II, that's all. WoW created a massive wave of addicts with endless talkshows and documentaries in the mid-to-late 2000s, and that is coming from somewhere and won't go simply away. Like smoking. You can show people the negative effects - still there are hundres of millions of smokers. Also, if Blizzard is so good with their design directions, why would they have a "classic" version? Looks like neither direction of the game went so well eventually.

    The gameplay of FFXIV is really not quick and it often like a choreography or a Japanese game show - be on Spot X when the annoying music and the blinking light stops, else... But I think it's quite the point of its path.

    To the rest: Do not give the angry pub brawler with the Moogle mask more beer and snacks. He might be less angry when the game is translated in Spanish. . .


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    Idk what's worse people who never played WoW talking about systems they've never interacted with, the bad troll. Or people who are crying like people in WoW let alone ffxiv have to care about them in a run and not *treat them like a number*

    But back on topic, from my experience with wow its situational, as with ffxiv, from beginning to end, from the first fight all the way up to the last, it's all subjective and situational.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omymy View Post
    No, she said I bought my account because I think BLM is boring. To prove it (which I don't have to do because it's not a GM) I just posted a picture of my BLM. Then she said it's not possible because the char on the screen is a miqote and I said I used a phantasia.

    What exactly can't you understand here?



    Weebs are worst tho.
    Yes yes and you're the bad troll derailing half of this along with the two who seem to be in the camp of *WoW bad, FF good*

    Which is funny because Yoshi P made his team play WoW to see how to make a proper mmo and they copied a lot of WoWs old systems....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angus-Beef View Post
    Yes yes and you're the bad troll
    Yamete kudasai.


    Quote Originally Posted by Angus-Beef View Post
    Which is funny because Yoshi P made his team play WoW to see how to make a proper mmo and they copied a lot of WoWs old systems....
    Making your kid play with Messi's shirt doesn't make him good at football. Or, in your case, change that name for "Tsubasa."

    The rest I won't answer because it's very offensive and I'm very affected by the words of a random guy on the Internet.
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    From the tiny time I played wow on a friend's computer when my PS4 was dead the GCD is faster. But and this is just from what I seen. ( Also Scottzone himself has said this with momo )) That WoW is abit easier due to most bosses only being either a DPS soak OR a mech jam. In FFXIV all of our bosses are both and from a newbie on both games XIV asks alot more of you. Wow doesn't at first, but raiding can get insane but even still ( and this is from Scottzone ) XIV asks alot more of you at the highest level. But that's getting into diffcultly and not speed. Also what I noticed is Wow doesn't ask you to do Street Fighter levels of rotations. XIV on the other hand is the Street Fighter of mmos.
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