Does WoW have a faster pace than FFXIV?

[Reap00]

Fflogs salutes you.

And partyfinder is quite toxic too. What are you talking about.

WoW toxicity is on a whole new level.

[Reap00]

Except you see that all the time in XIV too.
The XIV community is not some bastion of politeness, and people can easily be toxic if they even bother talking to you over silently vote kicking someone without saying a word if they don't like you for whatever reason.
Conversely, I've seen much better personalities in WoW in my time there.
So, the only thing i can say is.. anecdotal evidence is only that, anecdotal and doesn't give you any arguments in the conversation.

I have never seen toxicity that you experience in the WoW community in any other game. The toxicity in that game is not just in end game. It is EVERYWHERE.

[Omymy]

Tell me more about arcane-one-button mage master class or how about ele shaman or destro warlock. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Specs in wow are so diverse and complicated yes yes, you could macro that thing for entire raid, oh actually its real there was one button macro hunter build btw. xD

From your answers I realize that you haven't touched a mythical dungeon+ or raided in your life, which makes your opinion a desperate attempt to defend FFXIV at all costs. People like you make video games worse all the time. Although I'm not surprised, I mean, in this forum there have been 60 page topics asking to put a thong back in but you all keep your mouth shut when the devs haven't given you a healer class that doesn't make you want to throw up. Maybe that's what you deserve.

I think it's funny that you talk about macros when all PS4 users use them to play and even the crafting system (which was once used to praise this game) is based on giving it a button that automates everything.

I don't know, Rick, it smells like a fanboy.

[Nedkel]

From your answers I realize that you haven't touched a mythical dungeon+ or raided in your life, which makes your opinion a desperate attempt to defend FFXIV at all costs. People like you make video games worse all the time. Although I'm not surprised, I mean, in this forum there have been 60 page topics asking to put a thong back in but you all keep your mouth shut when the devs haven't given you a healer class that doesn't make you want to throw up. Maybe that's what you deserve.

I think it's funny that you talk about macros when all PS4 users use them to play and even the crafting system (which was once used to praise this game) is based on giving it a button that automates everything.

I don't know, Rick, it smells like a fanboy.

You dont have to be pro raider in order to make an opinion about each class gameplay. Does it changes in raids so much in comparison to other content? Its same and its based on same few buttons spam and same principles, this is a mathematical fact. Your point on FFXIV is not valid especially since you think BLM gameplay to be worth a sleep which is absurd considering it is one of the hardest dps to optimize.
You arguments against ffxiv are straight out invalid and it seems like you just came here to talk down the game, the reality is WoW lost a ton of players that went into other games and this happened for a reason. Do i fanboy for FFXIV? Are you fanboying for WoW?
And why are you suddenly comparing crafting to the combat for both games? Wow does not even have a reliable crafting system...

[KalinOrthos]

I think any felt pacing difference is from the 2.5 GCD vs the 0.5-1 GCD disparity. FFXIV's fights feel quite a bit more fast paced, and the sheer amount of movement that needs to be done while needing to optimize damage to beat enrage timers makes FFXIV's slower GCD balance out. I think the comparison is apples to oranges; the two have vastly different encounter design philosophies, and ultimately I find myself siding more on FFXIV's encounter design.

One thing that I think WoW has better, though, is its overall tanking philosophies from Mists onwards. Mists brought us what I like to call "active mitigation", where the mitigation upkeep of tanks is worked into the core rotation of their damage. For instance, for brewmasters, the usage of different abilities actively reduces to cooldown of their brews which either allow them to reduce damage taken through a staggered damage DoT or remove the DoT entirely. Playing more actively makes you a better tank and increases your outgoing damage. Part of me wishes SE took a bit of that design philosophy and gave tanks more active mitigation than "this part of your combo heals you", but the two are entirely separate games, so I'm not sure if active mitigation is something that even can be implemented into the game.

[Omymy]

You dont have to be pro raider in order to make an opinion about each class gameplay. Does it changes in raids so much in comparison to other content? Its same and its based on same few buttons spam, this is a mathematical fact. Your point on FFXIV is not valid especially since you think BLM gameplay to be worth a sleep which is absurd considering it is one of the hardest dps to optimize.
You arguments against ffxiv are straight out invalid and do i fanboy for FFXIV? Are you fanboying for WoW?

Say what you like, another issue will be whether you look ignorant to anyone or not.

Can I talk about quantum physics after watching two videos on YouTube?, yes, I will have more idea than someone who really studies and practices it?, no. Just as easy as that.

You can't talk about combat if the most you've ever done is two WQs. To the OP's question, is the pace faster? Yes, that's a fact.

FF has boring battles, that's why no one watch a stream of this game. It has no frenzy, its classes have too basic a procedure. The dragoon's aoe rotation is so easy that one thinks if they really wanted humans or bots to play (which plague the game, by the way).

I don't know, you don't have to watch out for procs, debuffs, difficulty. You can do the dungeons with your toes because the tanks don't lose any aggro, I mean... what are you talking about, boy.

DPS's are laughable, man, they're easier than the mechanism of a pacifier. You're talking about the BLM, which is a turret whose maximum difficulty is to see where you put the little circle to keep hitting the 1-2-3 until you pass out or lose consciousness.

[Nedkel]

Say what you like, another issue will be whether you look ignorant to anyone or not.

Can I talk about quantum physics after watching two videos on YouTube?, yes, I will have more idea than someone who really studies and practices it?, no. Just as easy as that.

You can't talk about combat if the most you've ever done is two WQs. To the OP's question, is the pace faster? Yes, that's a fact.

FF has boring battles, that's why no one watch a stream of this game. It has no frenzy, its classes have too basic a procedure. The dragoon's aoe rotation is so easy that one thinks if they really wanted humans or bots to play (which plague the game, by the way).

I don't know, you don't have to watch out for procs, debuffs, difficulty. You can do the dungeons with your toes because the tanks don't lose any aggro, I mean... what are you talking about, boy.

DPS's are laughable, man, they're easier than the mechanism of a pacifier. You're talking about the BLM, which is a turret whose maximum difficulty is to see where you put the little circle to keep hitting the 1-2-3 until you pass out or lose consciousness.

We are talking about game with few inputs to manage, its not rocket science.
Im not denying its fast, a lot faster in fact but also a lot more boring and less thinking is involved, the amount of active skills is smol and so diversity is smol, and you end up pushing literal few buttons over and over in WoW on majority of specs.
Also what are you talking about, 1-2-3 on BLM? How did you got to 80 lvl on it? BLM does not have any 1-2-3, whaaat. You are pointing out a finger on my lack of "knowledge" on WoW but you are lacking knowledge on FFXIV yourself. xD

[Omymy]

You arguments against ffxiv are straight out invalid and it seems like you just came here to talk down the game, the reality is WoW lost a ton of players that went into other games and this happened for a reason. Do i fanboy for FFXIV? Are you fanboying for WoW?
And why are you suddenly comparing crafting to the combat for both games? Wow does not even have a reliable crafting system...

It must be sad that even if they lost so many players (a fact that you get out of that place where the sun never shines) that game is still the king and the symbol of the MMO. This will remain for the rest of the story, while FFXIV will be remembered as that game with cat girls where the most interesting thing is to make an instagram or try on outfits.

I prefer not to talk about the millions of visits Classic has had in Twitch, while FFXIV is not seen by absolutely nobody. For a game from fifteen years ago to paint your face like that... sad sad sad...

We are talking about game with few inputs to manage, its not rocket science.
Im not denying its fast, a lot faster in fact but also a lot more boring and less thinking is involved, the amount of active skills is smol and so diversity is smol, and you end up pushing literal few buttons over and over in WoW on majority of specs.
Also what are you talking about, 1-2-3 on BLM? Have you bought your account or something? BLM does not have any 1-2-3, whaaat. You are pointing out a finger on my lack of "knowledge" on WoW but you are lacking knowledge on FFXIV yourself. xD
How you got your BLM to 80 lvl?

Lvled all dps classes, my rogue outlaw is still more fun to play (PvP and PvE) than all FFXIV classes. BLM was so damn boring to play, i had to use tons of podcast to not exit the game while using that character, hahahahaha.

Lets not talk about PvP neither becausssssssssssssse, this game have it at all?, i dont know. Playing that mode with this game's GCD is awful and so boring.

[linay]

It must be sad that even if they lost so many players (a fact that you get out of that place where the sun never shines) that game is still the king and the symbol of the MMO. This will remain for the rest of the story, while FFXIV will be remembered as that game with cat girls where the most interesting thing is to make an instagram or try on models.

I prefer not to talk about the millions of visits Classic has had in Twitch, while FFXIV is not seen by absolutely nobody. For a game from fifteen years ago to paint your face like that... sad sad sad...

What's sad about it? If you're enjoying the game, then why would you care what other people think of it? Or if you don't enjoy the game, then why continue playing it? Either way, what other people think is irrelevant unless enough people abandon a multiplayer game such that you cannot find enough people reliably to do what you want in the game. And that point (or maybe even before then), a multiplayer game might die, but until then, enjoy what you like.

Also, you say some people in this forum are ruining FFXIV. I say some people in WoW forum who agree with how Blizzard handles flying and allied race in WoW are ruining that game, but it's all subjective in the end.

[Nedkel]

It must be sad that even if they lost so many players (a fact that you get out of that place where the sun never shines) that game is still the king and the symbol of the MMO. This will remain for the rest of the story, while FFXIV will be remembered as that game with cat girls where the most interesting thing is to make an instagram or try on outfits.

I prefer not to talk about the millions of visits Classic has had in Twitch, while FFXIV is not seen by absolutely nobody. For a game from fifteen years ago to paint your face like that... sad sad sad...

Classic wow has only about 240k people active in the last 7 days according to one site that monitors active players count, thats not too big, niche multiplayer tank games has more than that.

Lvled all dps classes, my rogue outlaw is still more fun to play (PvP and PvE) than all FFXIV classes. BLM was so damn boring to play, i had to use tons of podcast to not exit the game while using that character, hahahahaha.

Lets not talk about PvP neither becausssssssssssssse, this game have it at all?, i dont know. Playing that mode with this game's GCD is awful and so boring.

This smells fishy.
Also implying WoW pvp is any better, well...

But back to the topic, OP should give a try WoW and see it himself how it is. The fact is fast combat in WoW has been compromised by the lack of skill diversity and gameplay, which makes you spam few same skills over and over. No one who actually plays wow will tell you that their game class design is good, it gots so much worse after legion and a ton of people left the game because of the changes implemented to make the game more casual friendly.