PLDs: You have Clemency for a reason.

[Maeka]

Holy Circle being new doesn't change anything about what he said being right.
The only time "5 Holy ___ in Requiescat" changes is when you get Confetior, which just turns that window into "4 Holy ___, finish with Confetti."
You're accused of using a jump pot because, again, of a misunderstanding on the fundamental rotation of the job.
Your deflection only makes your statements worse.

EDIT::
The bold/underlined part. I don't know whether to point out that you're again blaming other people for messing up, or that you've encountered SO SO SO many people playing paladin wrong.

Well, again, I've not played PLD much in group content since Stormblood and the couple roulettes I got were pre-RQ so...

*shrug*

And yes, I see plenty of PLDs casting Holy Circle. So I went to the Job Guide, and read the tooltips to make sure I'm not getting something wrong, and I see this in Requis... how do you spell that again? nngh. Requiescat:

"allows spells to be cast immediately".

I assume this means that RQ removes casting times on Spells? If so, then I should *never* see a Hard casted Holy Circle, right?

But yet I do. Frequently. And the only way I would know that a PLD casted Holy Circle is, yes, looking at the HP Meter and seeing the cast bar. Which should not happen if my assumptions about what "allows spells to be cast immediately" means are correct.

[Lavieh]

Which should not happen if my assumptions about what "allows spells to be cast immediately" means are correct.

Go back to the job guide and read their level 78 passive ability. Then quickly edit out your comment so no one sees you said it.

[Maeka]

Go back to the job guide and read their level 78 passive ability. Then quickly edit out your comment so no one sees you said it.

I don't misrepresent things by editing things out. That's rather dishonest.

Seems to be that the Job Guide really should specify what traits affect what abilities in the abilities' descriptions, like

BlahBlah Skill
Does Blah Blah
Lv78 Trait: Also does blah blah

Would make that way easier to understand.

[Patcheresu]

Which should not happen if my assumptions about what "allows spells to be cast immediately" means are correct.

Unfortunately your assumption is a bit off. SQEX explains the tooltips on the job guide as if you are Level 80. If you checked it as WHM, you may notice it says Asylum "Increases HP recovery via healing actions on party members in the designated area by 10%". This, like instant spell casts during Req on PLD, is a Lv. 78 Trait, something Asylum does not have until that point in time.

[WhyAmIHere]

Well, again, I've not played PLD much in group content since Stormblood and the couple roulettes I got were pre-RQ so...

*shrug*

And yes, I see plenty of PLDs casting Holy Circle. So I went to the Job Guide, and read the tooltips to make sure I'm not getting something wrong, and I see this in Requis... how do you spell that again? nngh. Requiescat:

"allows spells to be cast immediately".

I assume this means that RQ removes casting times on Spells? If so, then I should *never* see a Hard casted Holy Circle, right?

But yet I do. Frequently. And the only way I would know that a PLD casted Holy Circle is, yes, looking at the HP Meter and seeing the cast bar. Which should not happen if my assumptions about what "allows spells to be cast immediately" means are correct.

*sigh*
Trait: Enhanced Requiescat Lv. 78
Spells require no cast time while under the effect of Requiescat.

At 78. At 78 your spells become instant cast.

Requiescat: Deals unaspected damage with a potency of 150. Potency increases up to 550 as MP nears maximum.
Additional Effect: Increases attack magic and healing magic potency by 50% if current MP is at 80% or higher.
Duration: 12s

Until 78 YES you will see hard casted holy circles. You should see 5 of them whilst under the effect of Requiescat, which you only use when you're at 80% or more of your MP. BUT, to get the full use out of it, you use it only when you're at 100% MP.

Seriously. I do not want to believe you run into so many PLD players that are casting Holy ___ outside of Req. I know that the general playerbase is what it is however so I vaguely believe that you've ran into plenty of bad PLDs.

Again: misunderstanding on fundamental rotation and gameplay. But despite the crassness i'm using here, I only want you to improve.

[Mavrias]

Well, again, I've not played PLD much in group content since Stormblood and the couple roulettes I got were pre-RQ so...

*shrug*

And yes, I see plenty of PLDs casting Holy Circle. So I went to the Job Guide, and read the tooltips to make sure I'm not getting something wrong, and I see this in Requis... how do you spell that again? nngh. Requiescat:

"allows spells to be cast immediately".

I assume this means that RQ removes casting times on Spells? If so, then I should *never* see a Hard casted Holy Circle, right?

But yet I do. Frequently. And the only way I would know that a PLD casted Holy Circle is, yes, looking at the HP Meter and seeing the cast bar. Which should not happen if my assumptions about what "allows spells to be cast immediately" means are correct.

That's literally a level 78 trait, oh my lord. You didn't even finish reading the job guide. Of course you see paladins in Holminster Switch with cast times. It's a level 71-72 dungeon.

[Maeka]

That's literally a level 78 trait, oh my lord. You didn't even finish reading the job guide. Of course you see paladins in Holminster Switch with cast times. It's a level 71-72 dungeon.

The number of people replying to posts that were made quite some time ago, on the previous page without reading the latest page.

Oi.

I was focusing on reading on a couple abilities and I wrongly assumed that they would have written the abilities a bit better, or something, which I explained above an easier/better way to communicate what abilities do on the Job Guide.

But eh, whatever.

You say I "didn't even finish reading the job guide", I could say that you "didn't even finish reading the rest of the thread".

[Mavrias]

The number of people replying to posts that were made quite some time ago, on the previous page without reading the latest page.

Oi.

I was focusing on reading on a couple abilities and I wrongly assumed that they would have written the abilities a bit better, or something, which I explained above an easier/better way to communicate what abilities do on the Job Guide.

But eh, whatever.

You say I "didn't even finish reading the job guide", I could say that you "didn't even finish reading the rest of the thread".

Bruh, you claim you hard leveled paladin to 73. You should already know that your requiescat isn't making your casts instant at your level. Unless you don't use it, which is an even more disturbing concept. This sure is a deep hole you're digging.

Also: "some time ago" you mean 30 minutes?

[Maeka]

Bruh, you claim you hard leveled paladin to 73. You should already know that your requiescat isn't making your casts instant at your level. Unless you don't use it, which is an even more disturbing concept. This sure is a deep hole you're digging.

It's called Leveling Roulette. You know, that thing you can do that sometimes sticks you into Sastasha?

Heck I did a Trials Roulette earlier and it gave me Ravana. I also did a Leveling Roulette today that gave me Baby Garuda.

I'm sure I got lots of practice using Shake it Off on my WAR in those two dungeons, right?

I did do a few FATEs as PLD, but they were half-hearted Eclipse/Prominence spam with the occasional RQ but not having Holy Circle yet, I kinda just kept spamming Eclipse and Prom. Not the most efficient of play, but yet I wasn't actually heading into a dungeon, so.. *shrug* I was just trying to finish out a levelup.

Also: "some time ago" you mean 30 minutes?

Unless you're in kindergarten, it shouldn't take 30 minutes to read 5 posts that were <1000 characters each, nor should it take you 30 minutes to type one or two sentences.

[Mavrias]

It's called Leveling Roulette. You know, that thing you can do that sometimes sticks you into Sastasha?

Heck I did a Trials Roulette earlier and it gave me Ravana. I also did a Leveling Roulette today that gave me Baby Garuda.

I'm sure I got lots of practice using Shake it Off on my WAR in those two dungeons, right?

I did do a few FATEs as PLD, but they were half-hearted Eclipse/Prominence spam with the occasional RQ but not having Holy Circle yet, I kinda just kept spamming Eclipse and Prom. Not the most efficient of play, but yet I wasn't actually heading into a dungeon, so.. *shrug* I was just trying to finish out a levelup.



Unless you're in kindergarten, it shouldn't take 30 minutes to read 5 posts that were <1000 characters each, nor should it take you 30 minutes to type one or two sentences.

So you leveled paladin to 70 and did nothing with it? Not even hovering your mouse over the shiny new ability you got to see what it does? Interesting. Hasn't even used the skill, and doesn't read the job guide, but can spout off about what you see other PLDs are doing with the ability you don't even know? Super interesting.

I open the thread at work and read and start a reply. I then have to move away from my phone for a while to do stuff. I come back when i'm finished with that task and finish a reply. Wild concept, I know.