Recent Developments of TOS Actions Taken

[Cyreil]

You guys have become ruled by streamers.

[Vahlnir]

They won't accept video or screen shots that can be doctored. A live stream of a person logged in to their character who is a public and well known figure is not the same.

It's still a video. A stream can also be doctored.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

It's still a video. A stream can also be doctored.

While live? And on the person's account which is linked on his lodestone profile attaching his stream to his SE account and character?

Please explain how one can doctor a live stream that is in progress.

[Alteriius]

It's still a video. A stream can also be doctored.

How do you doctor a stream that's linked on their Lodestone page, exactly?

[Theodric]

It's all rather worrying, simply because technically anyone can be banned for anything according to the terms of service. Ordinarily that isn't a concern, since most companies do not actively make use of such power. Yet when people are told that outside evidence isn't permitted as evidence, it's a kick in the teeth for outside evidence to then be used to ban someone.

I hope this means that the death threats posted on a certain infamous Twitter blog devoted to forum quotes are finally going to be dealt with, especially when there's a clear link in many cases between the Twitter posters and their FFXIV character. Though something tells me enforcement of the rules will continue to be very selective. I hope I'm wrong, though!

[ForteNightshade]

They won't accept video or screen shots that can be doctored. A live stream of a person logged in to their character who is a public and well known figure is not the same.

If this were the case, why didn't they ban the BLM speed hacking Feast or the numerous amount of bots that have been caught. In the latter case, I know someone who went out of their way to stream a known botter on Cactuar. Guess what he was told? "We can't accept evidence outside of the game."

The only difference here is Arthars is a well known streamer. How isn't that a double standard?

[Driavna]

While live? And on the person's account which is linked on his lodestone profile attaching his stream to his SE account and character?

Please explain how one can doctor a live stream that is in progress.

The GM did not watch the rant live. A time stamp of the recordad video was linked.

[linay]

Look at the post below you. The hypocrisy is just so baffling.

That's not hypocrisy, maybe inconsistent, unless they simply changed their policy internally or it's different depending on the issue.

Hypocrisy is when you say someone else's action is bad while performing that action yourself.

[Vahlnir]

While live? And on the person's account which is linked on his lodestone profile attaching his stream to his SE account and character?

Please explain how one can doctor a live stream that is in progress.

Err, perhaps I should have rephrased. Some live streams are recorded, and those can be edited. Still though, it's an outside source and SE has said on multiple occasions that they won't accept such sources as evidence. Yet, here they are enforcing something they should have been all along using those sources. So...they need to make up their minds. Because if they allow this then bots and such can be reported the way they should be.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Err, perhaps I should have rephrased. Some live streams are recorded, and those can be edited. Still though, it's an outside source and SE has said on multiple occasions that they won't accept such sources as evidence. Yet, here they are enforcing something they should have been all along. So...they need to make up their minds. Because if they allow this then bots and such can be reported they way they should be.

So, are we mad they are finally enforcing things they should have been or are we mad that streamer guy we liked who was a complete and utter jerk got banned for it?