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    Quote Originally Posted by DumdogsWorld View Post
    The guy was clearly toxic, but Square Enix crossed a risky line to punish him.
    It's a fair point. It's probably the death/rape/etc threats (from the world first ultimate clears, not this incident) that opened pandora's box. That was out of game too but since SE responded to that, I think that is why they now respond to some reports about behavior connected to but not necessarily entirely within the game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alaray View Post
    People, players, who take an interaction a streamer has and harass on their own are doing just that: A streamer can't control their base anymore than I can, say, control what dumb things my friends end up doing that get them into a bad situation. (Which is to say, is a different context than a streamer advocating for people to go and harass x, y or z person, but that's not something that happened in the highlighted case, nor is it something that happens in any cases I've seen -- every streamer I've seen usually advocates to not do that. But at the end of the day, they don't literally control the individual people watching, nor do they have physical control over their keyboards.)
    While it's true they don't control their viewers, broadcasters do have a certain amount of liability about what they broadcast - and this extends into legal territory, not just SE's/Twitch's ToS. (And, you know - I know this was just hurling insults and very unlikely to escalate - but if it did escalate thanks to some dumb viewer, SE and Twitch could also potentially share some liability if it were shown they had reports they didn't act on.)

    There's a reason both big name TV broadcasters will blur faces, and content creators on youtube/twitch will often anonymize names of people that appear on their content. "I don't control the viewers" isn't a free pass.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alaray View Post
    Even then, going after a streamer who made fun of someone playing poorly is a less important thing to be concerned about than, say, all the advertised Discords in PF that're RMT selling things.
    Yeah, I do wish they'd do more about the blatant RMT too...
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